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    The ancient objects come from as far afield as Afghanistan in the East and Ireland in the West, as well as what is now Russia, Scandinavia and continental Europe.

    The hoard contains 617 silver coins and 65 other objects, including a gold arm-ring and a gilt silver vessel.

    Dr Jonathan Williams, keeper of prehistory in Europe at the British Museum, said: "[The cup] is beautifully decorated and was made in France or Germany at around AD900.

    "It is fantastically rare - there are only a handful of others known around the world. It will be stunning when it is fully conserved."


    From the Guardian:


    The Whelans and the museum staff were astounded as her bench gradually filled with the contents of the bowl: a gold arm ring possibly made in Ireland, silver rings and brooches, dress ornaments, ingots, the chopped up scraps of silver which the Vikings used by weight as cash, and coins by the score, many in superb condition.

    "If somebody asked me to fit it all back in now, I'm not sure I could," she said yesterday.

    The treasure was crammed into an exquisite silver pot decorated with incised lions and deer and plated inside with pure gold, which may once have held the communion bread for some wealthy church in northern France.

    The clue to why the Harrogate treasure had remained hidden lay in the bowl itself, archaeologists found. The latest coin was minted in 927 AD by the Anglo-Saxon king Athelstan, who was the first to proclaim himself "king of all Britain". The most serious challenge to the Viking power was marching north, and the archaeologists are not surprised that the owner was never able to go back to retrieve his hoard.
    A Viking treasure hoard of silver traded and looted from far across Europe and into Asia and north Africa, and lost for over 1,000 years, was revealed again today at the British Museum.




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    I don't understand how the traesure ended up in Harrogate.

    There was no settlement in Harrogate until the 16th century.
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    • #3
      Wiki suggests otherwise-

      Harrogate was granted status as a borough in the 12th century, and was primarily a centre for agriculture and the woollen industry. As a side-effect to its newly found wealth, it also became known for its booming prostitution trade, as sex-workers could earn comparatively high wages until the late 13th century
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
        Wiki suggests otherwise-
        Not for the 1st time Wiki is completely wrong
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        • #5
          This site suggests habitation before the 16th century-

          A brief history of the spa town of Harrogate in Yorkshire from the discovery of the spa to the 21st Century


          Until the 17th century Harrogate was just a quiet hamlet. Then in the late 16th century a man named William Slingsby drank from a well. He had travelled to several spas and he realised the well water tasted like spa water. Slingsby discovered Tewit Well, which is a chalybeate well (one containing iron). People believed that drinking water from such a well would heal sicknesses. So Harrogate began to grow into a spa town.

          It grew more after 1631 when a man named Dr Michael Stanhope discovered a second well, St John's Well also known as the Sweet Spa.
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          • #6
            There was a village called Bilton which is now in the boundries of Harrogate. That is much older and is mentioned in the Doomsday Book.

            Knaresborough is just down the road and thats got a Norman castle so is quite old.

            I haven't got my sources as there at Mums house in you guessed it Harrogate
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            • #7
              So Stinger's authoritative source is .. his mum.

              London was abandoned for centuries before the Saxons built a settlement there, but it doesn't make it the first.

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                Is there anywhere on this island that doesn't have a history of centuries of human settlement?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cort Haus
                  So Stinger's authoritative source is .. his mum.

                  London was abandoned for centuries before the Saxons built a settlement there, but it doesn't make it the first.
                  No I lived there and did a project on the history of the place when I was about 15, now it obviuosly wasn't a major academic study but basicaly the place didn't exist until the slingsby chap found the well.

                  It is entirley possible that there was the odd farm etc in the area, but there is no river and it's not on any of the Roman roads so It is quite surprising the Vikings rocked up there.

                  I would be delighted if my home town is a hitherto unknown area of Viking activity
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Starchild
                    Is there anywhere on this island that doesn't have a history of centuries of human settlement?
                    Hull
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TheStinger


                      Hull
                      First mentioned as a place of settlement in the 12th century. This makes it younger than Brighton, the place I always think of when I try to think of "new" places in the UK.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Starchild


                        First mentioned as a place of settlement in the 12th century. This makes it younger than Brighton, the place I always think of when I try to think of "new" places in the UK.
                        You mentioned human settlement though
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                        • #13
                          Touché
                          Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
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                          • #14
                            Are we sure this stuff is not just loot from raiding trips? I know the Vikings had an extensive trade network, but they participated in some other activities as well.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Starchild
                              This makes it younger than Brighton, the place I always think of when I try to think of "new" places in the UK.
                              Brighton is effectively London-on-sea, which makes it an extension of one of the oldest places.

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