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  • #16
    Originally posted by Agathon


    Another way to look at it is that the political class has become so incestuous as to offer no real options to voters.
    And this is when politicians become dangerous.

    For all the dissension and infighting in the US, at least it is serving to reinvigorate the checks and balances of the system and the oversite of at least two differing political parties.
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    • #17
      Originally posted by C0ckney



      boris johnson, on the other hand, said the spliffs he smoked were 'jolly nice'.
      As were presumably the women he had affairs with, despite being married.

      All smoking, all-sh@gging, the Boris Party of the United Kingdom.

      The Tories are a joke because Labour are the "Tories".
      Alas an analysis in yesterday's Observer seems to indicate that the people who have done best out of New Labour (other than professional New Labour politicians) live in safe Tory seats.

      Now that I think about it more, doesn't that just reward the families who need it the least?
      Yes, it's only called 'socialism' when the state gives money to the disadvantaged. When the state funds the well-off, it's called tax breaks. Or community building.


      Or whatever anodyne phrase is used to justify cleaners paying proportionately more tax than hedge fund managers.
      Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

      ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Agathon
        State schools judged as "failing" to be taken over by parents and charities, with pupils in disadvantaged schools getting £500 for extra tuition - academic, musical or sporting.
        Those State Schools that are failing tend to be in areas where the intake is severely disadvantaged and whether they find it hard to field parents to be governors, let alone getting enough to run the place.

        If the children are messed up so as to make it a school no good teacher (apart from crusaders) want to teach at, you can bet your bottom dollar the parents aren't too good either in the main.

        Teaching needs an incentive scheme for excellent and experienced teachers to leave nice state schools (not private ones where many don't even have a teaching qualification) and work in the failing schools.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by molly bloom
          As were presumably the women he had affairs with, despite being married.
          I'm sure they were. The trouble is, once we discard everyone who has smoked a spliff and enjoyed it, had a fling, or likes getting pissed we're probably left with Anne Widdecombe. There are probably a lot of good people who are scared away from politics by the moral 'beauty contest' that it has now become, knowing that any human indiscretions will be trumpeted by the media in an attempt to end their career.

          Or whatever anodyne phrase is used to justify cleaners paying proportionately more tax than hedge fund managers.
          Of course it's not just cleaners, it's almost everyone that pays proportionally more tax than the uber-rich. The problem is that having dismantled manufacturing industry, the economy is now totally dependent on the financial services of the City. To keep the City's position in the world markets, these outrageous tax loopholes remain.

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