I hate my donation...

[DanS]

Re: I hate my donation...

Originally posted by Winston
So, who else subscribes or otherwise reads National Geographic, what do you think of their coverage - and can I really consider myself a self-respecting cultural conservative while still having it delivered to my door for another couple of years?

I stopped my Scientific American precisely because of this type of unrelenting and pervasive political bias (I am not really a "cultural conservative" per se).

You, of course, can cultivate your conscience on these issues as you wish.

[Lorizael]

Correct. If National Geographic or any magazine (or magazine distributor more accurately) in this country gave a **** about this theft, policies might change.

As it is, who cares if a couple friends of whoever puts the magazines on the newsstand get a free copy once a month?

[Jon Miller]

The question is about your ethics Lorizael.

JM

[Lorizael]

I didn't engage in that when that was my job. Others around me did. On the other hand, I didn't really care that it happened. If the question concerns my ethics, then I guess I'm not a very ethical person. Oh no.

[LordShiva]

Magazines don't really profit from magazine sales, anyway.

[Lorizael]

Yes. They profit from being almost completely made up of advertisements.

[Kuciwalker]

Re: Re: I hate my donation...

Originally posted by DanS
I stopped my Scientific American precisely because of this type of unrelenting and pervasive political bias (I am not really a "cultural conservative" per se).

You, of course, can cultivate your conscience on these issues as you wish.

We stopped our subscription because it went completely down the gutter in terms of scientific quality, completely unrelated to any bias.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Yes. They profit from being almost completely made up of advertisements.

I miss the days when Computer Shopper was three or four hundred pages each month.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Lorizael
Yes. They profit from being almost completely made up of advertisements.

I subscribe to ~10-15 magazines, at $3-5 each, thanks to this.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Dead trees

[LordShiva]

Me

[Ming]

Originally posted by LordShiva
Magazines don't really profit from magazine sales, anyway.

Not true at all... while some magazines do have a business model based solely on advertising (controlled/free circulation shoppers or trade magazines) magazines sold on the newstand provide a solid profit to publishers. More and more magazines are looking to make more money off subscribers and newstand sales to make up for the drop in paid advertising revenue.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Ming


Not true at all... while some magazines do have a business model based solely on advertising (controlled/free circulation shoppers or trade magazines) magazines sold on the newstand provide a solid profit to publishers. More and more magazines are looking to make more money off subscribers and newstand sales to make up for the drop in paid advertising revenue.

What about newspapers? It's always been my understand that they, even more so than magazines, rely on advertising for revenue.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Lorizael
Oh! That makes a lot of sense. My useless point was that you can get the magazine without having to pay National Geographic any money if you don't mind getting it a month late and without a cover.

Bookstores have a habit of throwing out (or giving away, if you ask nicely) all the expired copies of an issue once the new issue comes out. The covers, however, they keep for their own nefarious purposes.

really? I never knew this (though I should have figured it out- just never thought about it). so where do they throw them? I have to dig through the trash to get them?

[Ming]

Originally posted by Lorizael
What about newspapers? It's always been my understand that they, even more so than magazines, rely on advertising for revenue.

Yes... newspapers do rely more than magazines on advertising for revenue... However, the decline in print advertising has forced both newspapers and magazines to raise revenue by other means... The New York Times and Wall Street Journal are just two recent examples...

A spokeswoman for the newspaper, Catherine Mathis, said later that home-delivery rates for The New York Times would increase 3 percent to 4 percent, while the newsstand price would increase from $1 to $1.25 beginning July 16.

Sunday newsstand prices will increase from $3.50 to $4 on July 15 in the New York metropolitan area only.

Robinson said the price increases would result in about $7 million to $8 million in additional revenue in 2007, and $14 million to $16 million on an annual basis going forward.

Last week Dow Jones & Co. said it would raise the cover price of The Wall Street Journal from $1 to $1.50, also on July 16.

Newspaper publishers throughout the country are looking for additional ways to increase revenues amid a slump in advertising as marketers shift spending to other media and online.