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    ...Or why does the US have to invade countries looking for terrorists when it should be looking closer to home?

    Besieged tax rebels revive the spectre of Oklahoma bombing
    By Leonard Doyle in Washington
    Published: 21 June 2007

    Ed and Elaine Brown, heavily armed tax evaders, are under siege on a hilltop in New Hampshire, threatening to fight to the death if federal agents try to storm their fortified home.

    "We either walk out of here free or we die," Ed Brown shouted from an upstairs window. He has been convicted in absentia of evading federal income taxes by hiding $1.9m (£900,000) of income between 1996 and 2003.

    He refuses to pay, shouting: "Show us the law and we will pay what you ask - you can't do it."

    Elaine Brown added: "If they come in, we're dead. That's it. We will not be arrested. We will not volunteer to go into their prison for a non-crime. We have committed no crime."

    Their home near the small town of Plainfield has thick concrete walls and a turret that offers a 360-degree view. The authorities have cut off their power, but their property is self-sufficient, with solar, wind and geothermal energy.

    The siege has been continuing for months, but things now seem to be coming to a head. Heavily armed Swat teams have been seen on the farm and neighbours have been evacuated from their homes. A no-fly zone has been declared.

    The Browns have widespread support in rural America for their claim that income tax amounts to slavery. They have been given weapons and supplies by supporters from as far away as Texas.

    The authorities know that the siege has all the ingredients for an explosion of violence. If they handle it wrongly it could trigger a revival of home-grown terrorism of the sort that brought about the Oklahoma bombing of 1995.

    As if to emphasise this point, the Browns were joined on Monday by Randy Weaver, a hero of anti-government circles. It was his defiance of federal authorities that led to the Ruby Ridge shootout in Idaho in 1992. Mr Weaver's wife and son and a deputy US marshal were killed. The botched federal raid gave an enormous boost to the so-called patriot militia movement.

    Mr Weaver taunted the authorities from the Browns' porch. "We said, 'This is it, we're not going to take it any more'... This is serious stuff. Bring it on. I ain't afraid of dying no more. I'm curious about the afterlife. And I'm an atheist."

    US Marshal Steve Monier seemed to engage in wishful thinking when he told reporters that while the siege could take months, the Browns might consider the prospect of going to jail for two-and-a-half years a better option after a summer without air conditioning and a winter without heating.
    The fortified home siege, another of those curiously American things...

    Are these people the US' own brand of settlers?
    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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    "The authorities have cut off their power, but their property is self-sufficient, with solar, wind and geothermal energy."

    lol well prepared green hippies LOL
    Blah

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    • #3
      No, just ideologically motivated survivalists...

      In view of their self sufficiency, I do find this comment rather stupid:

      US Marshal Steve Monier seemed to engage in wishful thinking when he told reporters that while the siege could take months, the Browns might consider the prospect of going to jail for two-and-a-half years a better option after a summer without air conditioning and a winter without heating.
      Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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      • #4
        Fire, and lots of it, will deal with this predicament
        Speaking of Erith:

        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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        • #5
          It's easy. The US authorities should invite some heavily armed Islamic terrorists and send them in to sort out the Browns on the grounds that it'll go down as an attack on US soil.

          Then the guvmint refuse to help the Browns on the grounds of them not paying any taxes for their security.

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          • #6
            My money for Browns vs. Terrorists is on the Browns.
            "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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            • #7
              Omg! A turret! Uber!


              Originally posted by MOBIUS
              No, just ideologically motivated survivalists...

              In view of their self sufficiency, I do find this comment rather stupid:


              US Marshal Steve Monier seemed to engage in wishful thinking when he told reporters that while the siege could take months, the Browns might consider the prospect of going to jail for two-and-a-half years a better option after a summer without air conditioning and a winter without heating.

              Furthermore, I have to wonder how much someone who is prepared to fight to the death would really care about a lack of air conditioning / heating...


              ... I especially wonder that, since I personally choose to live in a house without air conditioning or heating (it's my personal contribution to Reducing Global Warming).

              I mean what's wrong with these Americans?

              You can take our freedom, but you'll never take our comforts!?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Patroklos
                My money for Browns vs. Terrorists is on the Browns.
                At first, perhaps. But waves of suicidalists cannot be resisted forever, and the more of them that the Browns take out, the better for the Govt. It's win-win.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Blake
                  You can take our freedom, but you'll never take our comforts!?
                  It's called the 2nd Addendum: The right to bear air conditioners...
                  Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                  • #10
                    Oh dear!

                    The 2nd Addendum: The right for bears to use hair conditioners!

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                    • #11
                      I say nuke the ****ers.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • #12
                        I say don't let them buy any guns. Oh wait...
                        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                        • #13
                          The scary thing is, one of their clan becomes PM next week
                          Speaking of Erith:

                          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                          • #14
                            It is a big clan though, to be fair.

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                            • #15
                              It never ceases to amaze me how much people in the rest of the world care about what goes on in the US. I guess when you're insignificant, the only thing you can do is gossip about what goes on in places that actually have an impact on the world. An anti-jewish British ****** posting on an internet gaming forum would be the very definition of insignificant.

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