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  • #16
    What you deemed terrorist masterminds.

    What happened at zwartberg was a disgrace. However, it pales in comparison with what your governemnt has pulled of.

    What hapened in Congo (although a black stain on the history of my country) was the doing of one man and his entourage (i.e. not the governement). That man is dead for more than 100 years now. Couldn't you find anything better?

    Look up the definition of pompous. Then try to folow a course of reading comprehension.

    NAZI

    Again, where did i say that it is ok to blow up civilians. Read what I wrote and not what you think I wrote.

    And Belgium is not interesting enough to start a separate thread about
    "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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    • #17
      What you deemed terrorist masterminds.
      Yes, you're right.
      People like Salah Shehade are actually peace-makers in disguise.

      What hapened in Congo (although a black stain on the history of my country) was the doing of one man and his entourage (i.e. not the governement). That man is dead for more than 100 years now. Couldn't you find anything better?
      I think that trying to split the country in half to secure your financial interests in Katanga in 1960 is much better. What do you think?

      Look up the definition of bigot.

      NAZI

      FLEMISH

      Again, where did i say that it is ok to blow up civilians. Read what I wrote and not what you think I wrote.

      - You threadjacked a discussion about Syria, to point fingers at Israel

      - You claimed that Israel "can give tips" on being the most violent and hateful regime in the ME, despite it being the country that probably killed the least number of Arabs in the middle east.

      - this quote of yours:
      Adhere to the peace process while your "enemy" is still building or expanding settlements on your territory. The fact remains that they saw no other way out.

      in response to my statement about the Palestinians starting a bloody terrorist conflict.

      What does it mean?

      Does it not attempt to morally acquit the palestinian choise for conflict because "they saw no other way out"?
      Did you not imply that "expanding settlements" on one's territory, can morally justify leaving diplomacy in favor of military actions against civilians (as the pals did)?

      Perhaps I indeed require a course of reading comprehension.


      And Belgium is not interesting enough to start a separate thread about
      I'm sorry

      Do you not make great chocolate?

      Aren't there some interesting headlines to be made from Flemish-Walloon ethnic tension?
      Last edited by Sirotnikov; June 18, 2007, 09:18.

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      • #18
        1)
        Well, unlike you I don't think that other casualties in that particular or any other strike deserved their fate.

        2)
        Please tell me, in 1960, how many congolese did our miliatry actually kill... (And besides, even my father was only three years old at that time so I do not see how my personal convictions about mindless violence in the name of whatever can be connected to our colonization history in the Congo)

        3)
        JEWISH

        4)
        No it doesn't. I just gave you one of the main reasons why the conflict REstarted. They saw no other way out.

        5)
        Etnic tension ???? Man you be funny.
        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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        • #19
          Well, unlike you I don't think that other casualties in that particular or any other strike deserved their fate.
          well no one deserves to die, obviously.

          but sometimes there's a need to target bad people, when you're at war. And sometimes you miss. This is completely different from when someone like Hamas or Syria, targets innocent people in the first place.

          Btw, regarding the Shadeh thing - ever since, Israel has used bombs much smaller. The result is, that the Hamas leadership has survived 3 botched Israeli strikes since 2004, where the relevant house was hit, but everyone lived.

          Please tell me, in 1960, how many congolese did our miliatry actually kill...
          I think the better question is, how many people were killed due to steps you provoked, funded, supported etc.

          You did send 6000 troops, and you trained the local Katanga militia to do the dirty work.

          (And besides, even my father was only three years old at that time so I do not see how my personal convictions about mindless violence in the name of whatever can be connected to our colonization history in the Congo)
          not so fun discovering that your country also used force to defend its foreign interests, with disregard to fairness or international law?

          (I believe the UN accepted at least 2 decisions against that move, requiring you to pull your forces out).


          JEWISH
          See, I'm glad we're having fun.

          No it doesn't. I just gave you one of the main reasons why the conflict REstarted. They saw no other way out.
          Well duh.
          The conflict started because they didn't get what they want the peaceful way.
          The question is whether you condone their actions, as you appear to be saying.

          We analyzed the reasons that the palestinians are currently in deep ****.

          You said that it was because of my government's actions.
          I agreed, and claimed that my government's actions are a logical and legal response to a threat posed the Palestinian terrorist campaign.

          You did not refute that, but instead responded: "well they had no other choise" and "they did it because of the settlements". Thereby effectively justifying the Palestinian terrorist campaign on these reasons. I called you out on that.

          Etnic tension ???? Man you be funny.
          Hey, read the articles, man.
          I was sure that Belgium was totally peaceful and hugs and kisses and stuff.

          Here's what the articles say:
          The Flemish, nearly 60 percent of the population, depict many Walloons as idle benefit-scroungers who make no effort to learn the majority tongue.

          Francophone and Flemish newspapers could be reporting about different countries given the gulf in content.

          As with ethnic divisions in other countries, strife has been festering for decades. The Belgian aristocracy spoke French and looked down on Dutch as a commoners' tongue. Dutch became an official language only in 1898.

          Now the Flemish have the economic might, with technology, petrochemicals and car assembly plants and bustling ports. Wallonia has rusting relics from its coal and iron past.


          A survey March revealed that both 93% Flemings and 98% Walloons wanted Belgium to continue to exist in some form — although only 40% believed it would 50 years from now.

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          • #20
            The Isrealies can be bastards at times but the Syrian goverment is just plain scum, as is anyone who tries to explain it away or condone their actions.
            Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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            • #21
              Sprayber, you're back

              It seems you haven't posted in ages.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sirotnikov
                Hey, read the articles, man.
                Even by the poor standards of foreign coverage of Belgium, those articles are pretty crappy.
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