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Originally posted by Datajack Franit
stop feeding the trolls
stop feeding the trolls
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I very much doubt that. Fatah is already going after Hamas gunmen and officials in the West Bank.Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Hamas will win in the West Bank, as well.
I wonder if Abbas can survive as leader of Fatah after this, though. Seems there might be a desire for stronger leadership. Rajoub?
Or maybe time for Israel to release Bargouti?"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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But yes, Fatah is suffering for Arafats sins, his refusal to crack down on Hamas when that was possible."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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"At least 20 people were killed in fighting Wednesday, bringing the total in the four days of infighting to over 60. Among those killed Wednesday was a man shot when Hamas gunmen fired on a peaceful protest against the violence, witnesses said."
"Two women from the clan tried to leave the area to take a sick girl to a hospital and were shot and killed by jittery Hamas gunmen, a clan member said.""A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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AP:
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Hamas fighters overran one of the rival Fatah movement's most important security installations in the Gaza Strip on Thursday, and witnesses said the victors dragged vanquished gunmen into the street and shot them to death execution-style.
The capture of the Preventive Security headquarters was a major step forward in Hamas' attempts to complete its takeover of all of Gaza. Hamas followed up that victory by demanding Fatah surrender another key security installation.
Hamas also seized control of the southern city of Rafah, the second of Gaza's four main towns to fall into the Islamic militants' hands, according to witnesses and security officials.
The moderate President Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah, for the first time in five days of fierce fighting, ordered his elite presidential guard to strike back. But his forces were crumbling fast under the onslaught by the better-armed and better-disciplined Islamic fighters.
In all, 14 fighters and civilians were killed and 80 wounded in the battle for the Preventive Security complex, bringing the day's death toll to 25 by mid-afternoon, hospital and security officials said. About 90 people, most of them militants, have been killed since a spike in violence Sunday sent Gaza into civil war.
Fatah said seven of its fighters were shot to death outside the Preventive Security building. A doctor at Shifa Hospital, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal, said he examined two bodies that had been shot in the head at close range.
A witness, Jihad Abu Ayad, said men were killed in front of their wives and children.
"They are executing them one by one," Abu Ayad said. "They are carrying one of them on their shoulders, putting him on a sand dune, turning him around and shooting."
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"We are telling our people that the past era has ended and will not return," Islam Shahawan, a spokesman for Hamas' militia, told Hamas radio. "The era of justice and Islamic rule have arrived."
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"Shaher Hatoum, a nurse at nearby Al Quds hospital, said the facility had no electricity, water or blood, and that wounded were propped up on ward floors. Hundreds of bullets flew through windows, and fighters ignored the hospital's appeals to hold fire just long enough to have the generator and water pipes fixed, he said.
"We are waiting here for our end," Hatoum said."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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2 Palestinian states =
more votes to condemn Israel in UN
"I realise I hold the key to freedom,
I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
Middle East!Comment
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Two Palestinian States
Three Iraqi States
Al-Qeada will have a fun time if they ever do re-establish the caliphate.
Is there really any such thing as "Arab Unity"? Are the Arabs even well served by the idea?"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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It used to be a very vibrant and popular idea, but I think it's dieing, if not dead already."I realise I hold the key to freedom,
I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
Middle East!Comment
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That's not very smart. You'll end up with two retarded factions willing to do anything to injure the other and a bunch of fanatics mixed in willing to attack and kill any peace keepers because they see them as evil western Imperialists. You want to stop the fighting in Gaza? Drop a neutron bomb on it.Originally posted by Last Conformist
According to Swedish media reports, Abbas and Olmert have called for a UN force to be stationed in the Gazah strip. Anyone heard anything more of that?Last edited by Dinner; June 14, 2007, 11:55.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Y'know, I've long been in favour of doing that with the entire Mid-East.Originally posted by Oerdin
That's not very smart. You'll end up with two retarded factions willing to do anything to injure the other and a bunch of fanatics mixed in willing to attack and kill and peace keepers because they see them as evil western Imperialists. You want to stop the fighting in Gaza? Drop a neutron bomb on it.
However, unlike mine, Abbas and Olmert's ideas actually matter.Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- ElokComment
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Originally posted by Heresson
2 Palestinian states =
more votes to condemn Israel in UN
That's unfair, said by someone that lives in a country that isn't even worth wasting a terrorist attack for
I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.
Asher on molly bloomComment
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You want to stop the fighting in Gaza? Drop a neutron bomb on it.
Why a neutron bomb? Are the buildings in Gaza really worth saving?KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!Comment
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You could turn it into a theme park. IslamaWorld or IslamofacistLand.
Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Why not give Gaza to egypt and the west bank to jordania? they are all arabs anyway, it is not like a palestinian state of two separate enclaves can succed, let gaza be a port of egypt and the west bank jordanian territory
Would they say no to free territory?I need a foot massageComment
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Wish both sides good luck and let them get on with it. Eventually they'll exhaust themselves.Originally posted by Oerdin
You want to stop the fighting in Gaza?Comment
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