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Yeah, I miss UR as well Serb.
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Is that sarcasm?
Putin has about as much wit as Bush.
I still don't see what his problem is. At the very same time Russia is testing intercontinental rockets they are complaining about the US putting a defense system in eastern europe?! Well, duh! He's trying to make Russia out to be a victim. He's no more the victim then the US was when Russia put missles in Cuba. At least we are trying to disguise it as a "defense system".Comment
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Sig materialOriginally posted by Japher
Putin has about as much wit as Bush.
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the joke was LOLish. The absurd comparison of Honecker to a NATO leader was not. Im sorry, Im old enough to remember the 1970s and 80s, and NATO never worked that way, except in the minds of far lefties making false equivalences to the WP. Not surprisng an old KGB guy still thinks making such equivalences will work.Originally posted by Cort Haus
I skimmed it. Eloquent stuff from Putin.
VLADIMIR PUTIN: There was a joke in East Germany: How can you tell which of the telephones on Honecker’s desk is the direct line to Moscow? Do you know this joke?
DER SPIEGEL: No.
VLADIMIR PUTIN: The answer is: it’s the one with only a receiver and no mouthpiece. (Laughter).
The same goes for NATO, except that the telephone line goes not to Moscow in this case but to Washington
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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If the US were following Putins approach, we'd be passing to laws to ban Amnesty International.Originally posted by VetLegion
Let us not be hypocritical about democratic freedoms and human rights. I already said that I have a copy of Amnesty International’s report including on the United States. There is probably no need to repeat this so as not to offend anyone. If you wish, I shall now report how the United States does in all this.
Putin using proven internet trolling techniques
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Heh, Putin really is using 'poly-style trolling there. Conflating things that are juuuuust close enough that those who want to see equivalence will.
If Amnesty International has any decency, they will issue a public response, explaning the difference between reporting abuses in a free country and reportin abuses in strongman-land. I won't hold my breath, though.
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The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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VLADIMIR PUTIN: If NATO were involved this would not fundamentally change anything because we know how decisions are made in NATO. They were made in the same way in the Warsaw Pact. There was a joke in East Germany: How can you tell which of the telephones on Honecker’s desk is the direct line to Moscow? Do you know this joke?
DER SPIEGEL: No.
VLADIMIR PUTIN: The answer is: it’s the one with only a receiver and no mouthpiece. (Laughter).
The same goes for NATO, except that the telephone line goes not to Moscow in this case but to Washington, and so it would make no difference to us if NATO were heading this project.
I imagine that this insulted quite a few leaders in Western Europe.
One has to wonder no further about the idiotic stances that Russia is adopting after reading a comment like this. Here is hoping that somehow the next Russian leader will have a little international understanding."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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I think the historic directionality is reversed. That style of evasion was used by Soviet apologists since the beginning of the cold war, and seeped into American political discourse well before the Interweb was a gleam in Al Gore's eye. The common net style just picked it up from the Real world.Originally posted by Arrian
Heh, Putin really is using 'poly-style trolling there. Conflating things that are juuuuust close enough that those who want to see equivalence will.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Some typical stuff you'd expect from politicians, instead of answering the question weaseling out by pointing to other countries. I have no problem to admit that western countries have human rights issues too, but usually we have an open discourse about that or other problems, and our politicians regularly face criticism (or even open hostility) in the media, it's so common that it's not even up to debate anymore. And we don't usually let them get away with some lame "but oh uh, country x does this or that, so let's not talk about what we do".BlahComment
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Looks to me like he's looking for a few extra cards in his hand for free. He knows that he's got a weak hand as it stands. There's no cost to him for BAMing about it.Last edited by DanS; June 7, 2007, 10:21.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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No, we have to kill him
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well, it looks like the evil missile defense shield isnt so evil after all, as long as we put it in Azerbaijan!!!"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Re: Putin's interview with Newspaper Journalists from G8 Member Countries
You just don't get it, do you? Putin has always said nice things to the western media and then he goes home and makes hysterical shouts to the Russian media. It's all just a show designed to fool gullible Russians into thinking Putin isn't the powerless no body he really is.Originally posted by Serb
Well, after all that histeria in the western media, I think it will be good for you to read the full original text (English version):
Enjoy
Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Re: Re: Putin's interview with Newspaper Journalists from G8 Member Countries
I would be interested to see evidence.Originally posted by Oerdin
You just don't get it, do you? Putin has always said nice things to the western media and then he goes home and makes hysterical shouts to the Russian media. It's all just a show designed to fool gullible Russians into thinking Putin isn't the powerless no body he really is.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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