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    I thought this article about Rice's visit to Spain was funny. Appears that the diplomacy sometimes isn't quite so diplomatic.

    FYI, for those not already aware, I think Rice speaks for a broad range of American political views with regard to Cuba. There's no use lecturing her in public on this point.

    New Tensions Emerge Between Spain, U.S. Over Cuba

    By Glenn Kessler
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, June 1, 2007; 11:30 AM

    MADRID, June 1 -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice made a lightning stop here Friday, intending to signal an end to the Bush administration's diplomatic deep freeze of the Spanish government, but new tensions emerged over dealings with Cuba.

    Spanish officials were annoyed that Rice earlier this week rapped Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos for visiting Havana without meeting dissidents. Speaking to reporters as she flew here from Berlin, Rice reiterated those comments.

    Cuba has "a major transition coming," she said, alluding to the illness of long time leader Fidel Castro. "I think democratic states have an obligation to act democratically, to support opposition in Cuba, not to give the regime the idea that it is just going to be transition from one dictatorship to another."

    Meeting with reporters after a long meeting, Moratinos and Rice tried to play down their differences by noting that they shared the goal of a democratic government for Cuba. But when Moratinos defended the Spanish approach of engagement with the Cuban government and suggested that eventually Rice would see the method's merit, Rice rolled her eyes and turned to U.S. reporters and silently mouthed, "Don't hold your breath."

    "I have real doubts about the value of engagement with a regime that is anti-democratic and that appears to be arranging a transition from one anti-democratic regime to another anti-democratic regime," Rice said.


    Rice also met with Prime Minister Jose Luis Zapatero, King Juan Carlos and opposition leaders.

    The former conservative government was one of the Bush administration's strongest allies, and former secretary of state Colin L. Powell went to Spain almost every six months. But no senior U.S. official has visited the country in three years, ever since the new socialist-led government abruptly withdrew troops from Iraq after a terrorist attack in Madrid.

    Zapatero openly rooted for a John Kerry victory in the 2004 election, calling the occupation of Iraq "a fiasco" and saying he looked forward to a period of "no wars for oil" during a Kerry administration. Bush refused to accept a congratulatory phone from Zapatero after the election.

    Rice said here that the problem was not that Spain left Iraq but the way the announcement was handled. "We had our differences," she said. "We have overcome those differences with almost everybody and we have overcome that with Spain."

    But local media focused on the brevity of Rice's visit and how the fact she did stay overnight suggested Spain still not been forgiven by the Bush administration.
    Last edited by DanS; June 1, 2007, 13:54.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    'but I'm not dead yet' - Castro
    Monkey!!!

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    • #3
      Bush refused to accept a congratulatory phone from Zapatero after the election.

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      • #4
        Zapatero openly rooted for a John Kerry victory in the 2004 election, calling the occupation of Iraq "a fiasco" and saying he looked forward to a period of "no wars for oil" during a Kerry administration.


        I wouldn't answer that douchebag's calls, either.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
          Zapatero openly rooted for a John Kerry victory in the 2004 election, calling the occupation of Iraq "a fiasco" and saying he looked forward to a period of "no wars for oil" during a Kerry administration.


          I wouldn't answer that douchebag's calls, either.
          No, Zapatero phoned Bush
          Speaking of Erith:

          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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          • #6
            You really are the English MrFun...
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            • #7
              You're slipping out of character...a compulsory part of being French is hating Bush
              Speaking of Erith:

              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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              • #8
                Less so than hating the English now that Sarko is on board.

                Ohh and Frank Zappa
                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                  You're slipping out of character...a compulsory part of being French is hating Bush
                  Maybe his BMTD is getting better?
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #10
                    Less so than hating the English


                    Or the Spanish.
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                    • #11
                      Yeah I know but your venom err.... witty French repartee was directed at PH.
                      "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                      “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                        Zapatero openly rooted for a John Kerry victory in the 2004 election, calling the occupation of Iraq "a fiasco" and saying he looked forward to a period of "no wars for oil" during a Kerry administration.


                        I wouldn't answer that douchebag's calls, either.
                        And that's why I'd never encourage you to go into a job which requires the fine art of diplomacy -- i.e. gracious hypocracy.

                        Bush Baby is our Diplomate-in-Chief. When a foreign Prime Minister calls up to eat crow, the least Bush should have done was to pass him the barbeque sauce.

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                        • #13
                          And that's why I'd never encourage you to go into a job which requires the fine art of diplomacy -- i.e. gracious hypocracy.


                          And this is why I'd never encourage you to go into a job which requires the fine art of proper spelling.
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                          • #14
                            Point well taken

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                            • #15
                              "I have real doubts about the value of engagement with a regime that is anti-democratic and that appears to be arranging a transition from one anti-democratic regime to another anti-democratic regime," Rice said.
                              If the US traded with Cuba, Castro's head would be on a spike within a month. Even for an American foreign policy, this is dumb.

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