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    Former Aide Takes Shots at Edwards

    By Politics
    Thursday, May 24, 2007; Page A09

    Robert Shrum, the veteran Democratic strategist who worked on John Edwards's 1998 Senate campaign in North Carolina, does not remember his onetime client very fondly.

    In his new memoir, "No Excuses: Concessions of a Serial Campaigner," Shrum recalls asking Edwards at the outset of that campaign, "What is your position, Mr. Edwards, on gay rights?"

    "I'm not comfortable around those people," Edwards replied, according to Shrum. He writes that the candidate's wife, Elizabeth, told him: "John, you know that's wrong."

    Edwards's pollster, Harrison Hickman, who was in the room during the discussion, says Shrum "is sensationalizing and taking out of context what was an honest discussion about [Edwards's] lack of exposure to these issues and openly gay people. I don't remember anything that expressed any kind of venom or judgment about gay people."

    Edwards spokesman Eric Schultz says Shrum "has a very casual relationship with the truth. Bob is obviously more interested in selling books than reporting honestly and accurately about what happened."

    While praising Edwards as a man of "many innate political gifts," Shrum says he hoped the senator wouldn't run for the White House in 2004: "I was coming to believe he wasn't ready; he was a Clinton who hadn't read the books."

    When Shrum called to say he had decided to join the presidential campaign of another former client, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), Edwards was angry. "I can't believe you would do this to me and my family. I will never, ever forget it, even on my deathbed," he quotes Edwards as saying.

    -- Howard Kurtz
    WaPo

    So question to Ann Coulter is John Edward's homophobia simply overcompensation?
    "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

    “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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    shrum, the man who ran the brilliant Kerry presidential campaign.

    Er, wait a minute.
    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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    • #3
      Shrum is a double agent.
      "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

      “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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      • #4
        I was pretty homophobic 10+ years ago. It came from being called gay for the previous 5+ years.

        JM
        Jon Miller-
        I AM.CANADIAN
        GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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        • #5
          Eh, who cares?
          I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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          • #6
            NM, Im better than that.
            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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            • #7
              omfg! I was Dansd@!
              Last edited by Japher; May 24, 2007, 17:52.
              Monkey!!!

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              • #8
                @LotM

                [devil on the shoulder]You know you want to.[/devil]
                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                • #9
                  I wish Edwards would go away.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #10
                    When Shrum called to say he had decided to join the presidential campaign of another former client, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), Edwards was angry. "I can't believe you would do this to me and my family. I will never, ever forget it, even on my deathbed," he quotes Edwards as saying.
                    I can't see Edwards ever saying this...and especially not over a matter so trivial as someone deciding he wanted to work for someone else.

                    My best guess: Shrum is a liar.

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                    • #11
                      Z,

                      A person intimately involved in politics and electioneering. Going out on a limb there aren't you?
                      "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                      “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                      • #12
                        @ Z
                        Last edited by Kuciwalker; May 24, 2007, 16:12.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                          Z,

                          A person intimately involved in politics and electioneering. Going out on a limb there aren't you?
                          Actually, calling anyone involved in electorial process a liar is a pretty save bet.

                          But I'm friends with a lawyer who was Edwards' largest contributor in the last election. Good lawyers get mad, sure, but they know that holding a deathbed grudge is counterproductive. You get mad; sometimes you get even; but a lifetime of anger doesn't get you anything but ulcers.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Zkribbler
                            I can't see Edwards ever saying this...and especially not over a matter so trivial as someone deciding he wanted to work for someone else.

                            My best guess: Shrum is a liar.
                            I tend to trust the campaign workers over the politicians on these things.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              I tend to trust the campaign workers over the politicians on these things.
                              But remember, Schrum has been a political strategist a lot longer than Edwards has been a politician. And, as I said above, the story just isn't credible.

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