Vacations !! I feel European I get so much!

[Kidlicious]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Vacations !! I feel European I get so much!

Originally posted by Flubber


While vacation is


It in no way is equal to freedom and I do not think you can assert that in anything other than a somewhat joking way

I thought it was a very straight forward truthfull statement. If you don't feel free when you are on vacation I suppose that is a personal feeling.

[Flubber]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Vacations !! I feel European I get so much!

Originally posted by Kidicious


I thought it was a very straight forward truthfull statement. If you don't feel free when you are on vacation I suppose that is a personal feeling.

I do feel quite free when on vacation but still do not see vacation= freedom or freedom =vacation.

I think that is pretty self-evident but if you only require vacation to feel free, I guess we can suspend all your other individual rights and you would still feel free-- I suppose that is a personal feeling]

So roadside cavity searches for kid-- but as long as he is on vacation, he is still free.

[Kidlicious]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Vacations !! I feel European I get so much!

Originally posted by Flubber


I do feel quite free when on vacation but still do not see vacation= freedom or freedom =vacation.

I think that is pretty self-evident but if you only require vacation to feel free, I guess we can suspend all your other individual rights and you would still feel free-- I suppose that is a personal feeling]

So roadside cavity searches for kid-- but as long as he is on vacation, he is still free.

No I don't feel free during such searches, but I look at my life and I ask myself how can I be more free. Since I don't often get detained by police etc. I see less work as freedom. Maybe if I were a black man I would focus on police more.

[Flubber]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Vacations !! I feel European I get so much!

Originally posted by Kidicious


I see less work as freedom.

I see less work as "freeing" but that in itself does not equate to freedom to me.

[Straybow]

Re: Lazy Euros

Originally posted by KrazyHorse

http://hcpss.web.cern.ch/hcpss/dailyprogramme.pdf

Lunch (2h30')

That's so they have time to sober up before the afternoon session.

[Dinner]

My employer took away three vacation days from everyone at the first of the year. I was pissed but short of quitting there wasn't much I could do. Still going from 21 to 18 is still above the US average plus I got even by "working from home" a couple of days per month so that the lose in efficency more then made up for the days they stole from me.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Oerdin
My employer took away three vacation days from everyone at the first of the year. I was pissed but short of quitting there wasn't much I could do. Still going from 21 to 18 is still above the US average plus I got even by "working from home" a couple of days per month so that the lose in efficency more then made up for the days they stole from me.

Good one

If an employer changes a material term of employment that negatively impacts an employee, in Canada that employee could consider themselves to be dismissed. Its termed "constructive dismissal"-- IN the states where they have all that "at will" employment, I would expect there is not much choice but to suck it up

In Canada the fact that you can be constructively dismissed means that you could probably get a few months pay for damages but in any market where jobs are hard to find, its almost always better for the employee to just live with it

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Oerdin
My employer took away three vacation days from everyone at the first of the year. )

Just curious but is

1. your employer not doing so well
2. there a glut of available workforce
there high demand for people in your industry

Because that type of action is the type of thing people do when times are getting tougher and people just want to hang on to their jobs. If someone did that here right now, regardless of the legalities, you would probably see a bunch of people jump to other employers that offer better packages

[Solly]

Originally posted by MOBIUS
Not bad at all...

Mine are 37 days plus a strict 35 hour week, which is further eroded by the place virtually shutting down to go to the local pub with a beer garden every friday afternoon whenever there's good weather.

Not to mention I have the option of flexi time should I even wish to use it...

20 min walk to work, gym next door, parking on the street outside for £2.40 for the whole day. Which is great when I have a half day and come in for 8am - leave by 11:30am in the country by noon and all for £1.20...

Sounds sweet. So why are you are a stressed-out mard on Poly?

I work shifts and it's a 6-week rolling rota. Over 5 weeks I work a full week of shifts, so 7*24 = 168 hours. The sixth week is a training week which is inevitably taken off.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Flubber


Just curious but is

1. your employer not doing so well
2. there a glut of available workforce
there high demand for people in your industry

Because that type of action is the type of thing people do when times are getting tougher and people just want to hang on to their jobs. If someone did that here right now, regardless of the legalities, you would probably see a bunch of people jump to other employers that offer better packages

The old system gave us 21 days per year but we couldn't roll vacation time from one year to the next. The new system gives me 18 days per year but you can keep rolling it over for up to two years. I still feel I got gipped thus the "working from home" bit.