US anounces terrorist attacks on its citizens in Germany

[Kuciwalker]

A fascinating argument.

[Pekka]

True, but if you're arguing semantics here, it's really going to go belly up, since terrorist activity has been wider than during Clinton years.

Is this the fault of the president, unlikely, but the fact remains, activity has been a lot more than before, even on US soil.

[Lancer]

Terrorism forecasting is a booming business.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Clinton: WTC, Oklahoma, Atlanta Olympics

Bush: 9/11, anthrax

You still lack the global perspective in this post, but as others already pointed out, the arguments of US domestic terrorism is enough to prove you wrong, both in number of serious attacks and number of victims.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
You still lack the global perspective in this post

I specifically said I was addressing terrorism on American soil. Duh?

but as others already pointed out, the arguments of US domestic terrorism is enough to prove you wrong, both in number of serious attacks and number of victims.

What? Who?

[Tattila the Hun]

Oklahoma and Atlanta don't really count, being domestic nutjobs.

[Kuciwalker]

Why not?

If so they're equal: the only foreign terrorist attack on US soil under Clinton was the WTC bombing, and the only foreign terrorist attack on US soil under Bush was 9/11. Hardly an "all-time high" for terrorism in the US (as you claimed), especially as it was 6 years ago.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Clinton: WTC, Oklahoma, Atlanta Olympics

Bush: 9/11, anthrax

9/11 involved four separate attacks- four distinct hijackings of American flights.

You've also missed Richard Reid's attempted assault on American Airlines flight 63 .

There were also two separate anthrax attacks.

and the only foreign terrorist attack on US soil under Bush was 9/11.

Not true.

July 4th 2002 saw an attack on an El Al airlines counter at L.A.X. by an Egyptian gunman.

Domestic terror:

John Allen Muhammad, the Beltway Sniper, was also charged and found guilty of terrorism in 2003.

[BeBMan]

Maybe I'm a bit naive, but IMO other factors (like....hm....the scale or severity of terror attacks, not just their plain numbers?) aren't that unimportant when discussing how much of a threat terror really is/was.

But what do I know

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by molly bloom
9/11 involved four separate attacks- four distinct hijackings of American flights.

if you want to copy Oerdin you're welcome too.

You've also missed Richard Reid's attempted assault on American Airlines flight 63 .

Surely Bush shouldn't be penalized for terrorist attacks we successfully prevented. That's more of a credit to him...

July 4th 2002 saw an attack on an El Al airlines counter at L.A.X. by an Egyptian gunman.

According to wiki:

The FBI concluded this was terrorism, although they found no evidence linking Hadayet to any terrorist group.

According to wiki he was a random nutter who shot a few people and claimed he was a terrorist. I don't even remember the incident. Doesn't make for very good terrorism, does it?

John Allen Muhammad, the Beltway Sniper, was also charged and found guilty of terrorism in 2003.

Granted. That makes the totals even (by my accounting). Even so, you can hardly claim that there's been some dramatic surge in terrorism in the United states since Bush. Just ask people what the most recent terrorist attack is they remember is - the answer will be 9/11 (I have just conducted an unscientific survey of several people in my dorm and 80% of them said 9/11 - one mentioned the anthrax attacks). Terrorism no one notices isn't particularly effective or important, don't you think?

[Lancer]

Originally posted by Lancer
Terrorism forecasting is a booming business.

[Ecthy]

Welcome back Lancer.

[Lancer]

Thanks Ecthy! But, I haven't been away, just not posting much.

[Dinner]

I love it when Kuci can't admit he's wrong. It just makes it more funny.

[Ecthy]

Has he ever been right though? I see him called clever and all that but whenever I actually read some replies of him they're always arrogantly pseudo-clever and factually stupid at the same time.