France and Cars

[CrONoS]

Read in a French Quebeckers websites:

"Entre 70 et 100 véhicules sont incendiés en moyenne chaque jour en France"

Would be translated as:

"Between 70 to 100 cars are burned each day in France".


What the hell, is that true? What kind of country are you living? Is that the same thing for Canada, USA, etc...?

Does anybody do something?

[CrONoS]

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/05/08/france.postelection.ap/

PARIS, France (AP) -- France's defeated Socialists called for an end to post-election violence Tuesday after anti-Sarkozy protestors took to the streets for a second night, leaving cars burned and store windows smashed in Paris as well as unrest elsewhere.

While the unrest has been small-scale, it sent a message to Nicolas Sarkozy: He may have won the presidency, but he hasn't won over the many French who consider him -- and his free-market reforms and tough line on crime and immigration -- frighteningly brutal.

Sarkozy, who beat Socialist Segolene Royal in a runoff Sunday, is a divisive figure whose tough language and policies have angered many on the left -- and in the immigrant-dominated suburban housing projects that exploded into rioting in 2005. An anti-Sarkozy rally in Paris was planned for Tuesday afternoon.

Some 730 cars were burned nationwide Sunday night and 592 people arrested, police said.

Late Monday night, several hundred people massed again at the Place de la Bastille in Paris, breaking windows in nearby shops and starting street fires. Riot officers dispersed them, and about 100 people were detained, police said Tuesday.

One police officer was lightly injured and eight cars and two scooters were torched, according to the Paris police headquarters. Police officials said the perpetrators appeared to be anarchists and far leftists.

In Nantes in western France, hundreds gathered again Monday night, with a few dozen hurling beer bottles and other projectiles at police. Police responded with tear gas and arrested several people. Public buildings were also damaged and minor incidents were also reported in Toulouse in southern France.

"To all those who can hear me, I ask them to immediately stop all this behavior," Socialist Party chief Francois Hollande said Tuesday on RTL radio.

"We are in a republic, where universal suffrage is the only law we know. There can be disappointment, there can be anger, there can be frustration. But the only way to react is to take up your ballots, not other weapons," he said.

Socialist candidate Royal had warned of renewed violence in case of a Sarkozy victory, and had sought to make the campaign a referendum on Sarkozy's polarizing persona.

But voters favored Sarkozy anyway, handing him a mandate for reforms that include tax cuts and new labor rules making it easier to hire and fire to revive the sluggish economy. He faces a steep challenge in carrying this out in a country that cherishes its generous social safety net.

Most of the troublemakers this week have been white, whereas the 2005 riots involved many black and Arab youth angry over discrimination and alienation from mainstream society. This week's protesters resembled some of the young people who helped bring down a minor labor reform last year through mass demonstrations.

Sarkozy's reforms promise to be tougher, and are certain to meet similar street protests.

Sarkozy himself was on a yacht in the Mediterranean on Tuesday, taking time to relax before he takes over from Jacques Chirac on May 16.

Critics on the left assailed him for his high-budget retreat -- the yacht belongs to prominent magnate Vincent Bollore and was outfitted with huge plasma TVs and a jacuzzi.

Hollande was more understanding. "I find it normal that after a campaign that was also difficult for him, he needs rest," Hollande said.

The Socialists and Sarkozy's UMP party are now looking ahead to parliamentary elections June 10 and 17. The UMP needs a majority to keep Sarkozy's mandate for reforms. A win by the left would bring "cohabitation" -- an awkward power-sharing with a leftist prime minister -- which would put a stop to his plans.

The Socialists, however, are in disarray, with many calling for an overhaul of a party still attached to Marxist ideas that have lost currency in an era of borderless markets.

Hollande sought to shore up his authority by insisting Tuesday that he would lead the party's legislative campaign -- not Royal.

Sarkozy has drawn up a whirlwind agenda for his first 100 days in office. He plans to present major reforms at a parliamentary session in July: One would make overtime pay tax-free to encourage people to work more, another would put in place tougher sentencing for repeat offenders, and a third would toughen the criteria for immigrants trying to bring their families to France.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights rese

[BeBMan]

Re: France and Cars

Originally posted by cronos_qc
Would be translated as:

"Between 70 to 100 cars are burned each day in France".

It's a conspiracy led by French carmakers....

[Tattila the Hun]

With gas prices so high, what else could they burn?

[DAVOUT]

Cars are burned
- for fun
- after they have been stolen for a ride (or worse); if the stealing has been properly declared to the police, insurance will reimburse the owner
- by ordinary people in order to receive an indemnity from the State : a lump sum higher than the indemnity paid by insurance for old cars; also after an accident when no indemnity will be paid by insurance because 1/ the car was not insured or 2/ the car was insured but the accident was not covered or insufficiently covered by the insurance.

This is why tenths of thousand of cars are destroyed every year without people seriously complaining.

[Nostromo]

I lived in France for one year. One thing that struck me was the French youth. They're incredibly bad-mannered, rude and impolite. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they had a juvenile delinquency problem in France.

[snoopy369]

This is truly sad.

[LordShiva]

French aggressors

[Pekka]

nostromo, and that differs from adults how?

[Nostromo]

Originally posted by Pekka
nostromo, and that differs from adults how?

The adults were OK. I didn't meet any "maudit Français", as we call them here (translation: damn French).

For example, the kids sit in packs in public spaces and insult passer-bys. I've seen it often. Stuff like:

- Eh, fat bi tch, you look like a fat cow!
- Eh, bi tch, eh whore, I want to stick it up yours!

Sometimes, I had to smile, because they were pretty inventive.

[Dinner]

It sounds like the basic problem is lots of people standing around in the streets all day with nothing to do. If the economy was reformed so that these people could find productive jobs then they'd likely have less time to stand around and cause trouble.

[Nostromo]

They're teens, they should be in school.

[KrazyHorse]

Like b etor

[mactbone]

No, b etor just pretends to miss school, remember. It's all part of his stakeout, catching paedophiles. Like the Paedofinder General.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by nostromo
They're teens, they should be in school.

Tie the welfare benefits of the parents to their ****bag progeny actually going to school and getting good grades. Watch as the streets empty, the schools fill, and grades improve.