sex is repulsive

[Jon Miller]

No

I mean, everyone I have known who managed to convince me that they were Bi, came out as Straight or Gay later (or a hedonist).

This isn't personal experience.

Jon Miller

[Fake Boris]

I don't understand. If you call an 'hedonist' someone who enjoys sex with both genders, then that pretty much make him/her bi, right?

[Jon Miller]

There is a natural sexuality... that is why we see homosexual animals with no social benefit, and no social structure.

The is a key point of the gay argument. That is that they can't be happy being straight, that they are fundamentally unsatisfied with a straight lifestyle.

Now there are also people who claim to be naturally Bi. I use to beleive some of them (Asher was one). Then I developed my current theory (and predicted Asher was gay, before he came out). Most the people who managed to convince me that they were nonhedonist Bis, turned out to be gay to be honest.

Also, there are a lot of hedonists there.

My current hypthosis/theory, that all 'Bi' people are confused or hedonists, has currently no evidence to the contrary (Bi people who who don't appear to be confused or hedonists).

Jon Miller

[DrSpike]

Well it seems that you are making a somewhat dubious distinction between a hedonist and a non-hedonistic bisexual.

[Gatekeeper]

Well, I can understand why some might find sex and vaginas icky and disgusting ... BUT, you have to keep in mind that we ALL enter the world through our mother's vagina when she gives birth to us.

And how do we repay her? By squawling, screeching, pooping and peeing (usually all within a few minutes of birth).

Gatekeeper

[DRoseDARs]

We should sow up vaginas so that doesn't happen anymore.

[LordShiva]

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by AAHZ


not as disgusting as eating doughnuts out of dumpsters

Eating doughnuts out of dumpsters is not any more disgusting than eating doughnuts.

[ZEE]

Originally posted by General Ludd
Eating doughnuts out of dumpsters is not any more disgusting than eating doughnuts.

can i use that as a sig and sign your name next to it?

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
We should sow up vaginas so that doesn't happen anymore.

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris I don't understand. If you call an 'hedonist' someone who enjoys sex with both genders, then that pretty much make him/her bi, right?

Not trying to put words in Jon's mouth, but I see a distinction. A true bi-sexual would be able to have happy, lifelong, fulfilling romantic & sexual relationships with people of either gender. A hedonist would enjoy sex with either gender, but could only form lasting, fulfilling romantic relationships with one gender.

[LordShiva]

So straight people who just sleep around and aren't looking for fulfilling romantic relationships are hedonistic "natural" asexuals?

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by LordShiva So straight people who just sleep around and aren't looking for fulfilling romantic relationships are hedonistic "natural" asexuals?

"Aren't looking for" and "cannot form" are two different issues. I'm straight. 7 years ago I was sleeping around and generally enjoying myself. I wasn't looking for a long term relationship, but I accidentally fell into one. I'm now a happily married man. I wasn't looking for a longterm relationship 7 years ago, but it was still possible for me to form such a relationship.

If there's a person who cannot possibly form a long term relationship with anyone, yet still has a sexual drive, then their inability to form relationships would stem from something other than their sexuality. They're not asexual if they still have an active sexual drive. Maybe they're sociopathic or something.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Wycoff


Not trying to put words in Jon's mouth, but I see a distinction. A true bi-sexual would be able to have happy, lifelong, fulfilling romantic & sexual relationships with people of either gender. A hedonist would enjoy sex with either gender, but could only form lasting, fulfilling romantic relationships with one gender.

Hmm, that's a clearer argument than Jon's. Let's run with it (and I appreciate it is putting words in his mouth until he shows up).

The proposition would then become there are no people who can have happy, lifelong, fulfilling romantic & sexual relationships with people of either gender.

That would appear to be incorrect.

[DRoseDARs]

aneeshm, I was starting to wonder when someone would catch the pun...