Supercitizen joins the fight against terrorism!

[rah]

The two shouldn't be in conflict. Unless you're an idiot, which I've seen no evidence of. Weird maybe, but not an idiot.

[Pekka]

Ahh, no I didn't understand you at first. You meant that should I be studying at the same time, I can explain that hole. Right. Yeah, ok so there is no problem.

[DaShi]

How can you get your PhD, if you can't publish?

[Pekka]

Because that wouldn't be my subject of the PhD, just work while I'm doing my PhD, that mostly relates to... methods and techniques I use.

[DaShi]

This all sounds fishy to me. I'd email Serb everything I know about this just to be safe. He'll know what to do.

[Pekka]

In other words, my PhD is kind of the same subject, but this particular work I would not need to use in it at all. Besides, I think my PhD will be more concentrating on .. researching this particular strategy that hackers use, well more like a bunch of it and all kinds of stuff from that strategy to how it should reflect in risk management etc... all kinds of stuff. But this is more like.. serious security stuff that I'm supposed to do with this other thing.

[Sirotnikov]

congrats dude

you'll find it very gratifying hopefully


People in the know in the private sector will usually know what you mean when you say you can't specify. At least in Israel.

[Sirotnikov]

Btw, not everyone in the army can claim he had stuff to do with 'security'

There are several unit names and roles that are rarely mentioned online.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by DaShi
This all sounds fishy to me. I'd email Serb everything I know about this just to be safe. He'll know what to do.

Serb

He PM'd me the other day, and I told him to come back.

[chequita guevara]

If you're working on something you cannot verify the existence of, you can always have a cover job.

[pchang]

My favorite

is greeting card salesman

[Pekka]

che, yeah.. I don't think it's that 'top assignment', but the information I'd have would be considered secret, as in weaknesses in certain aspects of security. So, that's the thing that is sensitive, but I don't know if I'd have to deny or they'd have to deny anything, or if it would be the policy. I doubt it but you never know. As long as they'll prove that I was there, it's good enough for me. But I'm not taking any ghost assignments right now. So no, I don't have yo verify or deny the existance of something.

Sirotnikov, I think I could say the branch it would be for, and it would be clear what the domain is after that, because they have one very spesific job to do. I might be even able to say the branch, but since I don't know if it's a secret or not, I won't just go ahead and say it. If my overall field is security in many forms, it would be pretty suicidial to not be able to keep my mouth shut . But it might be something I can say later on, as to what branch it is, and it explains everything in itself. But it consists of all forces combined, domestic auhtorities, army etc. so it's a nice opportunity should I be doing it after I get my masters very soon hopefully.

[Pekka]

And I'm a realist, it's not like they're putting a lot of weight on this. They have done similar work naturally for a long time, but what we do is we've taken it a lot further. So it's kind of like, well, the academic world giving the latest to it and they'll see if that's something they'd be interested in. Of course, if they feel it's something they like as an additional measure, and they think it benefits them enough, that's where the real opportunity is. As far as I can see, it's anywhere from 6 months to 1 year assignment anyway, should they really be interested in it, I would be willing to do it more and to other branches as well, establish a company around it and truly get paid. Perhaps hire few people and teach the theory and hoops, and definitely getting value out of it. But you never know, it's one of these things where people talk and are interested but you don't know are they willing to pay what we think is the proper money.

[Pekka]

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I feel very honoured to be contacted without my personal initiation from a very nice level, because this is kind of what I wanted to do 'once I have enough experience to attract people to contact me'. But this is the kind of stuff that gives me the experience right now that I can hopefully get other stuff after that with someone else and before I know it, I'm on the track I wanted to be. So personally this means so much, I hope it holds and we get to do agreement on this. This also looks good with the whole setting up a business point of view as well.

Dreams Dreams coming true before you planned them to become true Big opportunities presenting themselves without any effort I like.

And it's not like.. I'm not saying that I'm so skilled, it's that the ... it's not easy to do even easy jobs with the people I'm looking forward to do with, because there's no normal routes, it's not like they're recruiting in schools etc. So you have to kind of.. you have to have specialities they need and then they kind of get to you. So that's very nice and I'm happy about it.

[Pekka]

There's one thing that makes me think about things. Seems that I'm going forward with things, I don't have to stop and think where I could go since I get options along the way to choose from, but.. it's like, it's always harder and harder to make new friends. It seems every couple of years I'm leaving all things behind and stepping into new zone. And it's making me more or less of a loner. I have many friends, but I'm always on the move, you know? Or talk about meeting ladies, I'm so busy at all times, I can't find the time to get out there and meet ladies and/or have fun. This is an excuse, I could drop some things and devote more time to myself, but the more I've chosen not to, the more it seems to be what I'm kind of doing. This used to be the opposite, I used to choose fun over work, ladies and friends over other stuff.. but now? Stuff gets more lonely every step you go.. Should I continue, Ok, I'd have 0 friends in the place. It's just difficult to do that kind of stuff over and over again, start from nothing and gain few buddies. It's a lot of work basically.

And then you start to think are you just getting new friends as .. temporary replacements. Because you know you'll be moving again soon, but not so soon that you'd like to hang out alone. A year, two, you know, you want to do things that you can't do alone. I understand it is what I need to do to get where I want to be, but then I think well, OK so I get there, I get to my goal. So then.. what do I do? Switch the TV on, and watch it alone? Go out? Celebrate by eating an ice cream? There needs to be people to share it with to make it worthy and to be able to enjoy it. Kind of sucks, especially as most of my friends aren't interested in what I do, so there's no chance will be ever working most likely even int he same city. Plus, I'll be definitely working a lot abroad, living in all kinds of temporary places. But that's just lonely stuff. At what point can you meet ladies and date even? SOrry, I'm leaving soon, can't be bothered. Or even have a family? I know I'm having a family kind of later on anyway, not before I hit 30, and more liekly at 35 or so. I'm too busy to have it earlier, and I'm liekly going to be busy even then. So now that I think of it, it's not all great, but of course it depends what you do. I plan on doing my stuff so that I can get away from it every now and then, I don't care. I need some time with friends at least few times a year. So maybe if I'm skilled enough, I can squeeze in more free time and make the trade off between that and money. If I'm just below that level, well, I can't choose that.

But it is weird how things change and I'm sure many of you have felt the same, this is a common thing. Earlier, you maybe had even too many friends. As the time goes on and you have no time to do anything extra, you are constantly moving, alone, it seems that you get more and more lonely, as in you don't know anyone in this world anymore and you kind of start to lose the knowledge you have on yourself as well. Because you need to reflect it from other people as well, but when you aren't doing it, what does that make you? Do you even exist? Sure, you exist, but it's just very isolated life.