In other news, the "Minutemen" have pretty much fractured as a group and are as irrelevant now as they were when the first crawled out from under a rock. And the fence project is likewise fubar. Shocking, I know.
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But it was Stewart’s pregnant nanny from Brazil, also without papers, that pushed her to make a dramatic change.
"She told me that she was so happy that she was having her baby here because (her child) would get a real Social Security number. She told me how surprised she was at all the ‘free’ neonatal care she was getting and all the other ‘free’ health services," Stewart says. "That’s when the light bulb went off."
Stewart fired her nanny, stopped hiring her foreman and vowed she would only use workers legally in the country.
What a hero!
In the interests of "helping the community" she fires her nanny. Now that woman is pregnant, has no rights, and now also no income. Hooray for protecting workers!I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).
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Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
The US consumer market has determined the value of landscape labor to be maybe $5/hour.
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Originally posted by DRoseDARs
and still conservatives will defend those businesses by refusing to punish them for hiring illegal immigrants in the first place for fear of not getting donations from them come election season.
Why would I defend them? I'd be for driving her competitors out of the market from fines because of their violations of the law.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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When she first moved to Santa Monica in 2002, Stewart says she was oblivious to the problem and consequently hired illegal immigrants as well.
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"I realized that my foreman, who has been in the country a long time, doesn’t have any desire to be a citizen. He has such a strong allegiance to Mexico," she says.
But it was Stewart’s pregnant nanny from Brazil, also without papers, that pushed her to make a dramatic change.
"She told me that she was so happy that she was having her baby here because (her child) would get a real Social Security number. She told me how surprised she was at all the ‘free’ neonatal care she was getting and all the other ‘free’ health services," Stewart says. "That’s when the light bulb went off."
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They are breaking the rules because they don’t want to pay a decent wage.
On the other hand, she pays people decent wages only because she doesn't want to hire dirty furriners? A fine candidate for Canonization."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-Bokonon
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I don't find her particularly saintly. Having said that, this is about what one would expect, given the cluster**** that is our Immigration policy (laws/enforcement (lack)thereof/etc).
In short, I sympathize with her frustration... she goes and tries to play it by the book and gets shafted because nobody (including left-leaning types who favor "living wages") wants to pay for landscaping with $15/hr wage costs.
As for firing the nanny... well, it does suck for the nanny. Perhaps the better response would've been to try and help her obtain citizenship legally. Then again, that might bring to light the fact that this woman had been employing an illegal. That's no good! Just fire her! Off with her head!
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Hmm, I had some landcaping work done recently. I can't say for certain that everyone who worked on my front yard was a US citizen. I think they were (small job, not terribly cheap), but I can't prove it.
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The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.
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Re: Immigration: Paying the Price for Following the Law
Originally posted by Gatekeeper
It offers an interesting point on the immigration debate — namely, Americans who might be mouthing the platitudes about doing business only with law-abiding operations, but then not following through on them when they find out it actually takes more out of their pocketbooks in order to do so. After all, employing legal workers a living wage doesn't come cheap.
There was a cartoon I saw, scene one had a bunch of immigrants (classically mexican) and they had cardboard signs saying $10 por hora. An American is seen to say "Sorry, you don't speak our language". Scene two has the same immigrants with a board saying $5 por hora. The same American is seen to say "Now you speak our language".One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.
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It's pretty much standard practice in Southern California to just go to the local 7-11, Home Depot, or where ever else you see large numbers of obviously illegal people hanging out when you want to get yard work done. You pay them in cash, often less then $20 for a full day's work, and then you drop them off where you found them.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Whoha
So they wouldn't want to only pay $4/hour? Obviously they are going to seek the lowest bidder.
Supply and Demand, not the US consumer, decides what the cost will be."I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin
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You forgot to add the lefties who blather on about living wage yet don't support it in practice, Z.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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Originally posted by Skanky Burns
But it was Stewart’s pregnant nanny from Brazil, also without papers, that pushed her to make a dramatic change.
"She told me that she was so happy that she was having her baby here because (her child) would get a real Social Security number. She told me how surprised she was at all the ‘free’ neonatal care she was getting and all the other ‘free’ health services," Stewart says. "That’s when the light bulb went off."
Stewart fired her nanny, stopped hiring her foreman and vowed she would only use workers legally in the country.
What a hero!
In the interests of "helping the community" she fires her nanny. Now that woman is pregnant, has no rights, and now also no income. Hooray for protecting workers!...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty
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