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  • #31
    Originally posted by Nikolai


    Not the prettiest picture I've seen. Poor math guys using precious time on making a bad painting.


    Looks like it was algorithmically drawn. Poor christians for not being smrt.
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    • #32
      Statistics indicate that mathematicians, well, they ain't getting any, ever.
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      • #33
        KH is married -- are you, Sloww?
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        • #34
          As a matter of fact, I am. Are you? Why, no! You're not!!

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          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #35
            No, I'm gay. 'nuff said.
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            • #36
              So math guys need over 100 years to solve a problem, WTF?

              Blah

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              • #37
                Actually, 4 years. Plus let's look at the past 100 years and the problems that have been solved.

                Math guys > librul artists.
                In da butt.
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                • #38
                  That Perelman guy and his proof of Poincare's conjecture seemed like more interesting math news to me.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Flubber


                    LUL

                    Is this important or not? You seem to go back and forth . . . Or is it important in the sense that any scientific knowledge could potentially be important someday somehow in ways we don't yet understand. I get that -- and I see much value in pure undirected research for the mere purpose of research.
                    It doesn't look that important to me but I'm not an expert in that area at all.
                    I never said the opposite so I don't know why you say I go back and forth.

                    My point was that you can't judge whether it is important by looking if you "can build stronger things with less materials or whatnot" because many things that ARE important do not in fact allow to build stronger things.

                    I wasn't commenting on your conclusion of its importance, but on your criterion for reaching this conclusion.

                    The last sentence in your last post seems to be in opposition to the last sentence in your previous post though.
                    Last edited by Lul Thyme; March 20, 2007, 15:36.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Jon Miller


                      However, Special Relativity was very small stuff, Lorentz had already done a lot of the work, and was obvious to most everyone. Therefore I assumed he was refering to GR, which is what is more obviously refered to with theory of relativity.
                      I was referring to special relativity.
                      I know Lorentz and some others had done a lot of the work (I didn't even mention Einstein I think), my point was that from the time these ideas were put forward and somewhat tested until a "practical application" was a pretty long time.
                      Moreover, it wasn't clear at the time what the future applications would be if ever.

                      I don't specifically want to argue this point, but while SR is very small stuff compared to GR, I think saying that it was obvious to everyone is at least a slight overstatement

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                      • #41
                        I don't consider the atomic bomb to be a practical application of special relativity. I consider it to be a practical application of atomic theory, which is based on quantum mechanics.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Jon Miller
                          I don't consider the atomic bomb to be a practical application of special relativity. I consider it to be a practical application of atomic theory, which is based on quantum mechanics.

                          Jon Miller
                          1.Wouldn't you need the mass-energy equivalence to compute the energy output of different atomic processes?
                          Doesn't that depend on SR?
                          2.Even if we rule out the atomic bomb, that just means applications were even later which was my point.

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                          • #43
                            I think atomic bombs are relatively overrated.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Lul Thyme

                              1.Wouldn't you need the mass-energy equivalence to compute the energy output of different atomic processes?
                              Doesn't that depend on SR?
                              2.Even if we rule out the atomic bomb, that just means applications were even later which was my point.
                              I wasn't saying that special relativity wasn't used. I was just saying that it wasn't the theory that enabled atomic weapons.

                              It's like saying that automobiles are an application made possible with advancements in rubber. Sure, those advancements are nice, but automobiles are an application of the advancements in combustion.

                              This saying that $E = MC^{2}$ is responsible for the atomic bomb is just silly nonsense.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Asher
                                I think atomic bombs are relatively overrated.
                                qft

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