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    Uproar hits Fla. Confederate flag show

    By STEPHEN MAJORS, Associated Press Writer Sat Mar 17, 2:43 PM ET

    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - When artist John Sims sees the Confederate flag, he sees "visual terrorism," and a symbol of a racist past. When Robert Hurst sees the flag, he is filled with pride as the descendant of a soldier who fought for the South during the Civil War.
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    Their differences have flared into a war of words, catching a local museum in the middle.

    Hurst walked into the Mary Brogan Museum of Art and Science this past week and saw an exhibit by Sims, including a Confederate flag hung from a noose on a 13-foot gallows in a display titled "The Proper Way to Hang a Confederate Flag."

    Hurst asked the museum to remove the display, along with 13 other pieces by Sims.

    The museum, however, announced Friday it is standing by Sims' work, on display since Feb. 26, because it wants to inspire dialogue in the community about a symbol that engenders a diversity of strong responses.

    "There's a balance between the nature of the art that we show and the outcome that we seek, which is to promote dialogue and conversation, and have you maybe think of something in a slightly different way," said Chucha Barber, the museum's executive director.

    Hurst, commander of the local Sons of Confederate Veterans chapter, said Friday he has lost respect for the museum, calling the display of Sims' work "offensive, objectionable and tasteless."

    "They're alienating a large portion of the population around here," Hurst said. "Maybe they just wanted to cause some controversy."

    He called Sims an "irrelevant individual" with no artistic talent.

    "There are some people who have great talent, and they rely on that talent to be successful. There are others who don't have great talent, and they have to rely on a gimmick," Hurst said.

    Sims responded that he's about as irrelevant as the Constitution.

    This is not the first time that Sims and the Sons of Confederate Veterans have sparred. In 2004, Gettysburg College in Pennsylvania drew protests from the group when it displayed the same gallows.

    Barber said she was not aware of the confrontation in Gettysburg, but said it probably would not have changed her museum's decision.

    Hurst says he has discussed the possibility of taking legal action against the museum, although he's reluctant to give Sims more publicity.

    Florida statutes say it's unlawful to "deface, defile or contemptuously abuse" the Confederate flag, but say it's also illegal to prevent the display of the flag "for decorative or patriotic purposes."

    "I think that we're well within the statute," Barber said.

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    Florida statutes say it's unlawful to "deface, defile or contemptuously abuse" the Confederate flag,


    What the hell?
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        When artist John Sims sees the Confederate flag, he sees "visual terrorism," and a symbol of a racist past. When Robert Hurst sees the flag, he is filled with pride as the descendant of a soldier who fought for the South during the Civil War.


        There's a difference?

        Originally posted by Tacc
        Florida statutes say it's unlawful to "deface, defile or contemptuously abuse" the Confederate flag,


        What the hell?
        That's obviously unconstitutional.

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          be CAREFUL when you deal with the south yall...

          Its MY home regardless...
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            I think we need a constitutional amendment banning the confederate flag.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              I think we should launch rockets at people who fly it in the back of their truck.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by AAHZ


                be CAREFUL when you deal with the south yall...

                Its MY home regardless...
                That's fine. The South isn't bad by definition - but the Confederate flag, the Confederacy, and what it stood for were disgusting. The ONLY celebration that should take place in the South is that it and its ideology of racial purity and hatred lost, and the ideology of freedom ultimately triumphed.
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                  Originally posted by Tacc
                  The ONLY celebration that should take place in the South is that it and its ideology of racial purity and hatred lost, and the ideology of freedom ultimately triumphed.
                  QFT

                  Forgive me, but i get very touchy when it comes to my home. I have no problem with people insuling the confed. flag... and i didnt mean to come across that way. The south IS a symbol of triumph over racism you are right... and i will ALWAYS love the "dirty DIRTY"
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                    Originally posted by Tacc
                    The South isn't bad by definition
                    wrong

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                      for Kuciface...
                      Last edited by ZEE; January 24, 2009, 12:37.
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                        Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                        wrong
                        I know, but I'm not an asshat, so I won't insult his culture directly.
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                            Re: "The Proper Way to Hang a Confederate Flag"

                            Originally posted by DRoseDARs
                            I wonder if they castrated it first?

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                              Wow! When I saw the title of this thread the picture in the OP was exactly what popped into my mind, and lookie! I must be psychic.

                              I say go for it Mr Sims and the Mary Brogan Museum. I'd like to see the State of Florida just try to enforce that law. I wonder when it was passed? Probably the 1920s? I believe that the defense has at least one sure way out of prosecution - what's hanging on that gallows is not the official Confederate flag, it's the battle flag.
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