Ww3?

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Dis
didn't we get our ass kicked by the chinese in Korea?

Vietnam

Hey! Those were ties!!

[Dis]

true about korea. At first they were kicking our ass. Kind of scary reading the history on that. I can't believe we got routed like that. We had pushed the N. Koreans back pretty far.

[Barnabas]

A more interesting question is who wins a war between India and China in 20 years

[LordShiva]

We will use our fifth columns in Tibet and Xinjiang FTW!

[Barnabas]

Could china and india fight a battle in which over 10 million men participate?

[Will9]

Sides:

US- EU, most British Commenwealth countries, Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan, and Israel

China- N. Korea and Vietnam

Likely to side with US- Russia along any other Eastern nation with that hasn't joined the EU yet

Likely to side with China- if it is withen the next 10 years, Iran (Iran's government is losing the support and many Iranians are pro US. That number of Iranians is growing quite quickly)

Likely to remain neutral- Latin America and Middle East

Those I have no idea about- Africa and much of South Asia

First of all, this war will be fought in Asia. China will not have the capability to compete with other navies. The war will surely start in Korea. Once war breaks out, most American indutries will likely move to India. This will put many Chinese out of work. America will surly win the air and naval war. China will probably be able to take and hold S. Korea. If China invades Taiwan Japan before western navies can arrive, they will surrender when they cut off from supplies. American airpower will act as a thorn in China's side. Without American industry, the Chinese economy would collapse.

I's easy, US will crush China!

[LordShiva]

Vietnam will only side with China if the Chinese manage to catch each and every single Vietnamese testicle in a particularly painful vice.

[Barnabas]

True

[Gatekeeper]

Originally posted by Dis
such a war is impossible. Both countries have too many economic interests in each other.

Never, *ever* underestimate the human factor in this equation.

If economic ties are the glue that keeps wars from erupting, I'd think our history would be far less littered with them. A quick look through the books will tell you otherwise, though.

More on topic, if there would ever to be shooting between the armed forces of the United States and China, it'd probably erupt over Taiwan. That's about the only remotely realistic possibility I can foresee at point in time.

Gatekeeper

[Provost Harrison]

It is economic and imperialistic competition that has tended to start the wars. I think the two nations are too interdependent for anything to happen.

[Kuciwalker]

France was Germany's largest trading partner, IIRC. (Before WWII.)

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
France was Germany's largest trading partner, IIRC. (Before WWII.)

In the just-before-WWII era, this isn't saying very much, though. The breakdown of international trade after Smoot-Hawley, the Great Depression, etc., is probably one of the more important of WWII's contributing factors.

[DinoDoc]

I think he meant before WWI.

[LordShiva]

Cordell Hull, who helped design Bretton Woods, also believed that trade barriers was the root cause of WWI. While that sounds like a bit of a stretch, it was probably an important factor.

[DinoDoc]

I agree, LS. That does sound like a bit of a stretch.