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Originally posted by lord of the mark
Now hes just an unassuming bloke. Picked at random off the streets of Karachi, I suppose?
Now hes just an unassuming bloke. Picked at random off the streets of Karachi, I suppose?
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Of course we did. He probably doesn't even know what al-Qaeda is. We just beat him long enough so that he'll claim to be a leader of it. Didn't you know that?
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio -
Now it may well be that hes confessing to more than he did - though its hard to see what interest the US Govt has in that, since he would be subject to execution for 9/11 alone, what need is there to pin say, the first WTC bombing (generally attributed to Ramzi Youssef, IIUC) on him? KSM however, may want to maximize his role, and show the world how important he was. As some serial murderers do, for example. Theres certainly no pressing need on the part of the USG to "close these cases" = its not like attributing them all to KSM would take away the discontent that OBL and Zawahiri have not been caught.
But there was abundant evidence against KSM before he was captured."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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If I'm him, I figure I'm dead anyway. So why not confess to killing Pearl? Or all manner of other things? That might take some heat off of others.
There is also the ego thing.
-Arriangrog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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KSM was operational head of AQ at the time Pearl was killed, Pearl was killed in Karachi, IIRC, and KSM was in Karachi. Im not sure why its so unlikely that KSM killed Pearl personally.Originally posted by Arrian
If I'm him, I figure I'm dead anyway. So why not confess to killing Pearl? Or all manner of other things? That might take some heat off of others.
There is also the ego thing.
-Arrian
Time, October 2006
"One former U.S. national security official tells TIME there is no doubt that KSM personally wielded the knife that killed the Wall Street Journal reporter. This official says that Ahmad Omar Saed Sheik insisted under interrogation that taking Pearl's life was not at first part of the kidnap plot — though Sheik also told his questioners that Pearl's kidnappers could never have released him because he was Jewish. But as the scheme unfolded, someone senior to him in the al-Qaeda hierarchy, known as "the fat man," took control of the operation and beheade Pearl.
Sheik never identified KSM as the actual killer, however. The FBI deduced KSM's role only after analyzing a video of the crime, in which only the perpetrator's hands are visible. That video was released by Islamic militants soon after Pearl's murder and then widely shown on Arab television and the Internet. Eventually, the FBI obtained its own version of the original video, as well as the camera used to photograph the murder. ""A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Ok, maybe he did it. I was merely suggesting another possible reason for him to expand his role in AQ.
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The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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apparently the FBI has matched the hands in the video of the Pearl killing to KSMs hands.Originally posted by Arrian
Ok, maybe he did it. I was merely suggesting another possible reason for him to expand his role in AQ.
-Arrian
And I dont think Ramzi Youssef is gonna get a pass cause KSM makes claims to stuff we have evidence Youssef did. And that Youssef may have confessed to.
Thats ONE reason its so handy to keep these guys in the dark about what the other guys have confessed to, what other evidence there is, etc. Of course that can involve keeping them relatively isolated, limiting their access to outsiders, and other US atrocities of a kind not seen since Hitler."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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I wonder how precise that is. I doubt it's anything like fingerprints.apparently the FBI has matched the hands in the video of the Pearl killing to KSMs hands.
It's plausible for the reasons you mentioned. The hands thing... I guess...
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The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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Why am I not surprised that the known evils of KSM have instead become a referendum on how evil the US is via torture at Gitmo?
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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He's obviously innocent. We just beat him like a drum til he said what we wanted him to. :angel:Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Why am I not surprised that the known evils of KSM have instead become a referendum on how evil the US is via torture at Gitmo?
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Sad that poly simply echoes the impressive wit and wisdom of Rosie O'Donnel."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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not ALL of us do...Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Sad that poly simply echoes the impressive wit and wisdom of Rosie O'Donnel.
dont forget about ME!
The Wizard of AAHZComment
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UR still a noob.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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I'm just waiting for Bush derangement syndrome to be recognized by the medical community so people can get the help they need to live normal lives again.Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Sad that poly simply echoes the impressive wit and wisdom of Rosie O'Donnel.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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I posted a link to the wiki about the Moscow trials just yesterday, for some inane reason.
I can't help but to make a link between them and this topic."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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Another problem with KSM'S confession: He claimed that the Plaza Bank skyscraper in Washington state was targeted as part of a second wave attack immediately after 9/11...
Problem is, it wasn't founded until last year.
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Nope, nothing suspicious about his confessions.
The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.
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