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  • #31
    Originally posted by Az
    IIRC, the way to go wrt

    a(x,y)(du/dx)+b(x,y)(du/dy)+c(x,y)u=d(x,y)

    to replace u(x,y) with w(s,t),

    with:
    s=x
    t=ax-by
    Errr...

    That substitution only works when you have a and b constants, not functions of x and y
    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
    Stadtluft Macht Frei
    Killing it is the new killing it
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    • #32
      I haven't gone back in several years now. Pretty much once the people I knew while I was there stopped going, I had no reason to go back anymore. I'm sure at some point a group of us will get together and go to homecoming. It's a veritable hop, skip & a jump for me. It's harder for others who are living elsewhere...

      Eek, my 10-year is coming up in '08.

      -Arrian
      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by KrazyHorse
        I can't decide if this is a bad attempt at a troll or sheer idiocy.
        and this is why spink > you.
        "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

        "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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        • #34
          at the risk of making an on topic post...

          me and boys used to come back quite a lot in the year after we left uni. spent a lot of time in our old local, the bars, the clubs, the beach. caught up with a lot of people we knew at uni and in swansea, which was nice. it's good being back with the boys, remembering the good times, getting back into the same habits, the same banter.
          "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

          "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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          • #35
            Originally posted by C0ckney
            at the risk of making an on topic post...

            me and boys used to come back quite a lot in the year after we left uni. spent a lot of time in our old local, the bars, the clubs, the beach. caught up with a lot of people we knew at uni and in swansea, which was nice. it's good being back with the boys, remembering the good times, getting back into the same habits, the same banter.


            No doubt it'll be Wetherspoons, then Pier Pressure till 4am, then an Upper Limit brekkie to soak it all up and start again...
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            • #36
              Originally posted by KrazyHorse


              Errr...

              That substitution only works when you have a and b constants, not functions of x and y
              what's the more general rule?
              urgh.NSFW

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              • #37
                Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                I can't decide if this is a bad attempt at a troll or sheer idiocy.

                Spink, I have less respect for you than for almost anybody else here. You're in with Kidicious and Slowwhand.

                Harsh words.

                But why leave Ned out ?
                Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Az


                  what's the more general rule?
                  Never invade Russia.
                  Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                  ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Az


                    what's the more general rule?
                    Don't know if there is a general rule for the coefficients of du/dx and du/dy dependent on a general function of both x and y...

                    By the way, I ****ed up. The substitution should be s = x^2/2 t = y^2/2

                    Sorry about that. Doing that gives you an equation of the form

                    du/ds + a*du/dt = f(s,t)*u + g(s,t) which is what you're looking for

                    Unfortunately, when I tried working that out all the way I ran into a problem. Namely, I couldn't integrate exp(sqrt(s))/sqrt(v+s) ds (with v treated as a constant)

                    But I tried to do it at 3:30 in the morning, so I might have ****ed up.
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • #40
                      Making the substitution I described gives the following:

                      du/ds + du/dt = exp(sqrt(2s))/sqrt(2t) - u/sqrt(2s)

                      Which is a standard linear 1st order form, and has a solution by quadrature (which, as I said, was irreducible when I tried to do it)
                      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                      Stadtluft Macht Frei
                      Killing it is the new killing it
                      Ultima Ratio Regum

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                      • #41
                        Oops, thought I had it, but made a small substitution mistake., so not sure how to solve the resulting integral anymore ... let me try agian
                        integral of :exp(sqrt(s))/sqrt(v+s) ds
                        take u=sqrt(v+s)
                        =
                        integral becomes 2exp(sqrt(u^2-a)) du

                        Looks a bit nice but not sure how to do that.
                        Last edited by Lul Thyme; March 13, 2007, 10:52.

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                        • #42
                          Uhhhhh....I don't understand this: 2exp(u^2-a)

                          should be 2exp(sqrt(u^2-a)) du

                          Am I wrong?

                          EDIT: you DanSed me

                          Now how do you integrate what you have there?
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

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                          • #43
                            I tried a few basic things and got nowhere.
                            I don't know much about integrating techniques though.
                            I don't think this yields to anything elementary (trig or by part).
                            I think it's probably doable analytically with something a bit more advanced. Maybe polar coordinates or what not.

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                            • #44
                              Maybe, but I can't do it.
                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              • #45
                                Integral solving is one of the lamer parts of mathematics. Bleh.

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