Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Petraeus: "Surge" has 25% chance of success.

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Petraeus: "Surge" has 25% chance of success.

    [Sen. Gordon] Smith [R-OR] said he recently spoke with Gen. David Petraeus, the new top military commander in Iraq, who told him the troop surge has only a one in four chance of succeeding.


    There's no plan B.
    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
    -Bokonon

  • #2
    He's a general on-the-ground in Iraq, what does he know ... well, besides how to be a foam-at-the-mouth anti-Bush liberal?
    The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

    The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

    Comment


    • #3
      Try it twice and the odds are even, ahem.
      One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

      Comment


      • #4
        I think I'd have to hear it from the horse's mouth given the source. Your own article seems to give doubts about the Senator's credibility.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

        Comment


        • #5
          The surge seems to going pretty well so far.
          KH FOR OWNER!
          ASHER FOR CEO!!
          GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

          Comment


          • #6
            You're saying that Gordon Smith is a pathological liar? Didn't see where the article said that.
            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
            -Bokonon

            Comment


            • #7
              I don't have to say it. His opponent seems to make that case for me.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

              Comment


              • #8
                To be fair to him, flip-flopping to survive an election doesn't make him a pathological liar.
                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                -Bokonon

                Comment


                • #9
                  The surge seems to going pretty well so far.
                  Based on what metric?
                  "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                  -Bokonon

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    The problem with the "surge" is that it is just that, a temporary thing. Violence in Baghdad itself is down the last few days, but then the Sunni insurgency continues unabated. Its great that lowering kilings by Shiite death squads will make Sunnis feel safer, but if the Sunni extremist keep killing Shiites with suicide bombs an car bombs, the poor Shiites who support Sadr aren't just going to sit there and get killed to ensure that the Sunni feel safe.

                    A "surge" may lower violence as long as it is ongoing, but what does it do to end the political problems that underlie everything? I am not a fan of the theory that less violence in the interim will make everyone change their political aims all of a sudden.
                    If you don't like reality, change it! me
                    "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                    "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                    "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Sunni. Shiite. Are you guys sure you're not just discussing the weather?
                      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                      "Capitalism ho!"

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Based on what metric?


                        Decreased violence in Baghdad.
                        KH FOR OWNER!
                        ASHER FOR CEO!!
                        GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ramo
                          To be fair to him, flip-flopping to survive an election doesn't make him a pathological liar.
                          What does it make him?
                          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            A soon to be former Senator...

                            Decreased violence in Baghdad.
                            There was something like a drop of a five percent per day in civilian deaths (in all of Iraq) between January and February. It seems pretty silly to attribute a change that small to anything...
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                            -Bokonon

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Since the "surge" is taking place in Baghdad and didn't even begin until the middle of February, I don't see why you would try to judge it's success based on the change in civilian deaths from Jan. to Feb. in the whole of Iraq unless you were purposefully trying to ignore and/or obscure the numerous reports out of Baghdad reporting a large drop in murders and other signs of sectarian violence...

                              Even GePap admits that the surge has improved the security situation in Baghdad. You're going to have to come up with better spin than this if you want to be taken semi-seriously.
                              KH FOR OWNER!
                              ASHER FOR CEO!!
                              GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X