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    'Racist' forced to withdraw bid for Israeli cabinet post


    Avigdor Lieberman, leader of the most right-wing party in Israel's governing coalition, was forced last night to cancel his nomination of a colleague condemned as a "true racist" to the Tourism Ministry.

    Mr Lieberman had faced mounting embarrassment over his choice of Esterina Tartman for the post of Tourism Minister after a series of damaging revelations about her eligibility for the job - or lack of it.

    Ehud Olmert's Cabinet confirmed Ms Tartman's appointment on Sunday despite her having made what was widely construed as a racist attack on the appointment of the first Arab Muslim minister last month.

    Saying that Ghaleb Majadale's promotion was "lowering the guillotine on Zionism" Ms Tartman, a Knesset member in the Yisrael Beiteinu party declared: "We need to burn this plague out of our midst and God willing, the Lord will help us with that." Her own party leader's harshly anti-Arab views did not deter Mr Olmert from making him a deputy prime minister in his coalition, and the most vigorous public opposition to her appointment at that stage was largely confined to the liberal left in Israeli politics and Arab politicians.

    But doubts began to spread wider after the revelation by Channel Two television that Ms Hartman had received around £150,000 in social security benefits after producing a doctor's certificate that she was not able to work more than four hours a day because of a car accident a decade ago.

    Then Yedhiot Ahronot revealed that two institutions from which she had claimed to have graduated with a "clear economics background" including a "master's in business administration", Hebrew University and Bar Ilan University, had no record of her having even enrolled. Instead it appears she has only a bachelor's degree from the rather less distinguished Israeli branch of the New York-based Touro College.

    The Bank Yahav, where she claimed to have been a vice-president disobligingly disclosed that she had only been a deputy department head.

    And the Israel Defence Forces even declined to confirm that Ms Hartman, a zealous army reservist, held an Israeli record for women in the military by having made 42 parachute jumps.

    Mr Lieberman has now nominated a former senior policeman in his party, Yitzhak Aharonovitch, to the job.
    What amazes me is that this racist piece of filth was even considered for the job...
    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

  • #2
    Well, she didn't get the job...
    "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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    • #3
      But not because of her racist and extremist views...
      Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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      • #4
        the most vigorous public opposition to her appointment at that stage was largely confined to the liberal left in Israeli politics and Arab politicians

        Is it true?
        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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        • #5
          Don't ask me, I'm not the journo that wrote the article.

          I suggest cross-referencing the Israeli papers, starting with Yedhiot Ahronot and posting your findings...
          Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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          • #6
            More simply, I'll wait for one of our Israelis to answer the question
            "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
            "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
            "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Spiffor
              the most vigorous public opposition to her appointment at that stage was largely confined to the liberal left in Israeli politics and Arab politicians

              Is it true?
              siro will know far more details than i, but my impression is that the Arabs and the left were the ones opposed to Lieberman getting ANY cabinet seats. Liebermans views are far more subtle, or at least are expressed with more restraint, so Kadima could get away with bringing him into coalition. Also since bringing him in deferred new elections, and new elections will likely mean more seats for Likud, this was arguably a pragmatic move for the center left (though it also gave Labour less leverage over the Kadima govt - but then to Peretz, avoiding a new election in which he is likely to lose the leadership of Labour may be more important than maximizing Labour leverage)

              For this woman, though she said something outre, (though perhaps there was a different spin on what she meant) in fact she was willing to serve in the same cabinet as the new Arab minister.

              Bottom line is though, she wont get a cabinet post. And the Arab fellow will keep his.
              "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Spiffor
                the most vigorous public opposition to her appointment at that stage was largely confined to the liberal left in Israeli politics and Arab politicians

                Is it true?
                the MOST vigoruous opposition has to come from somewhere, of course. Does all opposition have to be equally vigourous? The implication, that no one else cared, is naturally one the Indy wants to give, and that its readers lap up.
                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                • #9
                  If only we were all as tolerant and righteous as MOBIUS, the world would be a much better place. His unfaltering fairness on the issue of Israel is truly to be admired. It almost makes me think there must be a god to create such a perfect being as MOBIUS...almost. I will now go out and do my daily work of prancing around, and spreading the word of tolerance and political correctness. Your enlightenment has touched a heart today MOBIUS.

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                  • #10
                    @Drixnak
                    bleh

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by lord of the mark
                      the MOST vigoruous opposition has to come from somewhere, of course. Does all opposition have to be equally vigourous? The implication, that no one else cared, is naturally one the Indy wants to give, and that its readers lap up.
                      That is not the implication, so please try not to deliberately twist it as such!

                      Evidently, seeing as the 'most' vigorous opposition came from the left (naturally in this case, one would assume...), it would imply that there was also opposition from other quarters because 'most' does not mean all! Of course, I can understand your misunderstanding of the word most - because while Israelis occupy most of 'Greater Israel', zionist sympathisers like LotM want all of it...
                      Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                      • #12
                        PUSSIES!

                        Originally posted by Drixnak
                        If only we were all as tolerant and righteous as MOBIUS, the world would be a much better place. His unfaltering fairness on the issue of Israel is truly to be admired. It almost makes me think there must be a god to create such a perfect being as MOBIUS...almost. I will now go out and do my daily work of prancing around, and spreading the word of tolerance and political correctness. Your enlightenment has touched a heart today MOBIUS.
                        Funny how you know so much about me after only being around for two days...

                        You cowards have to resort to DL's to avoid the pwnage you know you'd get if you had the guts to say that to my face.

                        My work is done here!
                        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MOBIUS
                          That is not the implication, so please try not to deliberately twist it as such!

                          Evidently, seeing as the 'most' vigorous opposition came from the left (naturally in this case, one would assume...), it would imply that there was also opposition from other quarters because 'most' does not mean all! Of course, I can understand your misunderstanding of the word most - because while Israelis occupy most of 'Greater Israel', zionist sympathisers like LotM want all of it...
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MOBIUS


                            That is not the implication, so please try not to deliberately twist it as such!

                            Evidently, seeing as the 'most' vigorous opposition came from the left (naturally in this case, one would assume...), it would imply that there was also opposition from other quarters because 'most' does not mean all!
                            Then why "largely confined to", which I assume was the phrase that caught Spiffs eye.

                            Anyway, I wonder how organized any opposition had become seeing as the appointment was only announced this past Sunday.
                            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Elok
                              They also eat kittens--provided said kittens are properly butchered. Kosher kitten on rye with pickles
                              I thought that was Gentile children.
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