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first state to do so.
Yay for the Old Dominion
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first state to do so.
Yay for the Old Dominion
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber -
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Yay, I guess?
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The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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Why should people who have never participated in slavery apologise for it?Comment
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theyre not apologizing as individuals, but for the Commonwealth of Virginia, which DID participate.Originally posted by aneeshm
Why should people who have never participated in slavery apologise for it?
We're celebrating the 400th anniversary of the founding of Virginia this year. If only people who actually participated at Jamestown in 1607 celebrate, the celebrations will be pretty wimpy."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Following what lotm said, if we celebrate the great achievements of our country we must also apologize for the great evils.Originally posted by aneeshm
Why should people who have never participated in slavery apologise for it?Comment
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We celebrate the achievements because we are their inheritors, and because we embrace this inheritance. But if we consciously disown the evils, what is the need to apologise? We are no longer accepting them, so the need for an apology should not arise.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Following what lotm said, if we celebrate the great achievements of our country we must also apologize for the great evils.
Also, to whom is the apology directed? There are no slaves alive today, so who will be the recipients of said apology?Comment
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We celebrate the achievements because we are their inheritors, and because we embrace this inheritance. But if we consciously disown the evils
That's what we're doing.Comment
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Good for Virginia.Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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You can't inherit the achievements without inheriting the failings. Apologising is consciously disowning the evils.Originally posted by aneeshm
We celebrate the achievements because we are their inheritors, and because we embrace this inheritance. But if we consciously disown the evils, what is the need to apologise? We are no longer accepting them, so the need for an apology should not arise.
Also, to whom is the apology directed? There are no slaves alive today, so who will be the recipients of said apology?Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
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And who is going to accept the apology too? It's nutty, it really is...
Now come on Italy, I am waiting for your apology for invading us back when you were the Romans
Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda SmithComment
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Originally posted by aneeshm
We celebrate the achievements because we are their inheritors, and because we embrace this inheritance. But if we consciously disown the evils, what is the need to apologise? We are no longer accepting them, so the need for an apology should not arise.
Also, to whom is the apology directed? There are no slaves alive today, so who will be the recipients of said apology?
A. Its possible to apologize for doing wrong, without the person you did wrong to being alive. Its called repentance - you repent of what you did. Its aimed at whoever will listen, its not like paying damages.
B, There are certainly people alive who are direct descendants of slaves held in Virginia, who can trace back to specific named individuals. If someone is killed by negligence in India (or UK, PH) do you not give damages to the heirs and assigns?"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Originally posted by Provost Harrison
And who is going to accept the apology too? It's nutty, it really is...
Now come on Italy, I am waiting for your apology for invading us back when you were the Romans
The Republic of Italy isnt the legal heir to the Roman empire, AFAIK. Virginia has been around as a continous entity for 400 years.
And AFAICT, the ancient britons were a buncha loons anyway."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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How dare you denigrate our strugglesOriginally posted by lord of the mark
The Republic of Italy isnt the legal heir to the Roman empire, AFAIK. Virginia has been around as a continous entity for 400 years.
And AFAICT, the ancient britons were a buncha loons anyway.
Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda SmithComment
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Wow, someone has been paying attention. Jamestown was founded in 1607--'zackly 400 years ago.Originally posted by lord of the mark
Virginia has been around as a continous entity for 400 years.Comment
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