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    A "virtual Iraq" simulation that allows soldiers to re-live and confront psychological trauma has produced promising results for the initial handful of patients treated using the system.


    A "virtual Iraq" simulation that allows soldiers to re-live and confront psychological trauma has produced promising results for the initial handful of patients treated using the system.
    The trial of the software, which recreates the sights, smells, sounds and jolts of the battlefield, has now been extended to a few dozen US service personnel who have suffered post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) since returning from war in Iraq.

    The treatment is a more powerful version of imagination therapy, a traditional technique in which a therapist asks a patient to imagine scenarios connected with a traumatic event. With the software technique, patients talk through their trauma with a therapist while wearing goggles that immerse them in a virtual reality battlefield. The therapist can increase the strength of the scenario by adding elements such as roadside bombs or attacks by insurgents.
    Sounds kind of goofy yet interesting. What do you think?


  • #2
    There I was thinking this was an Iraqi zone in Second Life...
    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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    • #3
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      • #4
        id play it if it was available to the public...
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        • #5
          Originally posted by MOBIUS
          There I was thinking this was an Iraqi zone in Second Life...
          Good that it isn´t.
          Maybe the grid crashing while the veterans are in the middle of reenacting their psychological trauma (or some grievers crashing into the Sim with Push-Guns and Orbiters) might traumatize the Veterans even more
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          • #6
            Yeah, twenty bucks says they'll nerf the Allah u Akbar battle cry buff by next month. That thing's way overpowered. On the other hand, they'll need to tweak Engineering Skill: IED if they want it to remain a viable game feature for the Iraqi factions. As is, the failure rate's too high.
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            • #7
              Maybe it will help people deal with it better by not repressing it.
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              • #8
                Difficult to say how this works. I know that we have done a good job, indoctrinating people to kill without thinking too much. To aim and pull the trigger. This isn't actually a trivial matter. Most people would miss on purpose or just not shoot, or hesitate too long. So, in the last few decades or so, especially in the West, we've been able to train soldiers so they will shoot for the kill, and it doesn't shock them so much.

                So we're good at this now. However, what we can't deal with (yet) is how to help these soldiers after the conflict. We know how to make then go into war-mode, but therapy afterwards, well, we don't know how to do that yet.

                But it's an interesting idea, I don't know what kind of merits or grounded theory this is based on.
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                • #9
                  I've got a friend who got if in Vietnam. It still affects him even though he does therapy and group therapy. He doesn't take medication though because he's an alcoholic and he doesn't believe in medicating it.

                  If my son tries to go to war I will seriously kick his ass.
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                  • #10
                    Kid, would it help though? Sure, if he's an idiot, but if he really wants to go, he'll go. There's pretty much nothing people can do to stop that. If my son tries to go to war, I'll want to talk to him about it, just to know why he wants to go, what his big picture is.... and then of course talk him out of it. I think that's the only way to do it. Young men, you know, what can you do, except try to give them new ideas, challenge their views. They'll respect that much more, if they had an upbringing where you value reason, debate and the art of it. If they still have burning passion to go, like many young people do, I'd rather just give them a hug, say they're being pretty ****ing stupid right now, but to write me and let know if there's anything he'd need, advices, money, gear, whatever.

                    Then I'd go kick someone elses ass for all the pain of it LIke a helpless little dog. If you strike them in the stomach hard, they are likely to die. Kill puppies. My beautiful son has to go because of my failures to give them knowledge? Well, then few puppies have to do because their owners didn't watch after them good enough. Seems reasonable.

                    Also, sometimes the situation is .. depends what kind of war it is and for what reason. If it's to defend the country in real terms, as in the enemy is rolling over the border as we speak, I'll be proud of him instead angry. Maybe I'd get angry later if something was to happen to him or something.
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                    • #11
                      He doesn't seem like the type to go to a stupid war, but I don't know how he will be when he is 18. I joined the Navy when I was young but I wasn't stupid. They told me to get on a jets wing that was hanging over the deck in choppy seas and I told them to go **** themselves.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kidicious
                        If my son tries to go to war I will seriously kick his ass.
                        Wouldn't that be his choice? Or do you live his life for him?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          Wouldn't that be his choice? Or do you live his life for him?
                          I know I can't stop him from joining the military when he grows up, but as far as making decisions for him that's what I do because I'm his father. I intend to be as persuasive as I can.
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                          • #14
                            Funny how the only people using the phrase "post-traumatic stress disorder" seem to be people who have never been in the military...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by VJ
                              Funny how the only people using the phrase "post-traumatic stress disorder" seem to be people who have never been in the military...
                              Yeah, it's funny that some people think you have to be in the military to get it.
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