Who exactly is fighting the War on Terror?

[Darius871]

A valid source on that would be nice too.

[DanS]

Re: Re: Who exactly is fighting the War on Terror?

Originally posted by Darius871
My memory's a little fuzzy on this so I could be wrong, but wasn't there already a thread on the above-quoted part, and in said thread wasn't belated news of this "deal" attributed to one questionable source who was corroborated by neither DC nor Tehran?

There was little prospect of a deal. The Iranians have rejected broad settlements twice: During the beginning part of Clinton's 2nd term and about a year after 9/11. Mostly, it was due to the internal Iranian situation. It wasn't anything that the US could make right.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Darius871
A valid source on that would be nice too.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/08/us.iran.ap/index.html

Rice told Congress she does not remember seeing the 2003 Iranian proposal, which suggested Iran was ready to discuss its disputed nuclear program, support for militant groups that the United States labels terrorists and the acceptance of Israel.

"We had people who said the Iranians went to talk to you, lots of people who said the Iranians want to talk to you," Rice said during an exchange with Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Florida.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Notice how Drake keeps dancing around the fact that the Bush administration is now sponsoring a terrorist group?

As opposed to not sponsoring them before? Dude, there are terrorist groups operating out of Miami that the government has been helping for years, decades.

[SlowwHand]

Just vote Democrat and see how your Wonder Party does.

[chequita guevara]

I'm not a Democrat. I don't vote Democrat. It's not my party. I'll cry if I want to.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
You want to cut a deal with the world's foremost state supporter of terrorism in order to get a few Al Qaeda leaders because "Al Qaeda is public enemy number one"? Christ, and people say Bush lacks nuance...

Hamas has never attacked American targets.
Iran last attacked American targets through terrorists in 1996 IIRC.

AQ on the other hand killed 3000 Americans on 9/11.

Obviously one side has shown itself far more likely and willing to attack "the West" (Europe and the US) viciously, with the aim of causing mass civilian casualties. You should be able to guess which.

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I'm not a Democrat. I don't vote Democrat. It's not my party. I'll cry if I want to.

I didn't really mean you. I know you'll vote Raul.

[chequita guevara]

I think I'm gonna vote for myself. I'm gonna run for Congress in 2008.

[SlowwHand]

Are you? I've been thinking of running.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/08/us.iran.ap/index.html

Rice told Congress she does not remember seeing the 2003 Iranian proposal, which suggested Iran was ready to discuss its disputed nuclear program, support for militant groups that the United States labels terrorists and the acceptance of Israel.

"We had people who said the Iranians went to talk to you, lots of people who said the Iranians want to talk to you," Rice said during an exchange with Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Florida.

I don't know if you read the whole article too, but I don't see any proof that the recently released fax was actually sent in 2003. The only corroborating source in the article that had already left the NSC before the fax was ostensibly received.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Sandman

What does Saudi Arabia have to do with this?

Are you going to present proof of Saudi Arabia financing, militarily supporting and politically directing terrorist groups using its special forces?

Cause I can do that for Iran.

Originally posted by GePap
Hamas has never attacked American targets.
Iran last attacked American targets through terrorists in 1996 IIRC.

Iran's involvement in Iraq could be argued to constitute exactly that.
They have likely sold the weapons and trained the users, that eventually launched it.

A Hamas related proxy has attacked a US convoy in 2004.

[SlowwHand]

Why does Iran and Iraq spend so much time pissing on each other's boots? Are they the same relion? And isn't all this garbage supposed to be over religion?
They're both majority Shiite Muslim, right?

[KrazyHorse]

Slowwie, you're hilarious.

[Ramo]

I don't know if you read the whole article too, but I don't see any proof that the recently released fax was actually sent in 2003. The only corroborating source in the article that had already left the NSC before the fax was ostensibly receive

Lawrence Wilkerson (Powell's Chief of Staff during his tenure at State) has corroborated the story (IIRC, he was the original source). Iran was willing to put everything on the table, and we rejected 'em out of hand. Ahmedinejad is the fruit of Cheney's sabatoge of our diplomatic agenda.

This is one of the many reasons why Bush'll go down in history as one of the most criminally inept occupants of the oval office.