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    This is bull****.

    By LESLIE MILLER, Associated Press Writer
    1 hour, 54 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON - A revolt against a national driver's license, begun in Maine last month, is quickly spreading to other states.

    The Maine Legislature on Jan. 26 overwhelmingly passed a resolution objecting to the Real ID Act of 2005. The federal law sets a national standard for driver's licenses and requires states to link their record-keeping systems to national databases.

    Within a week of Maine's action, lawmakers in Georgia, Wyoming, Montana, New Mexico, Vermont and Washington state also balked at Real ID. They are expected soon to pass laws or adopt resolutions declining to participate in the federal identification network.

    "It's the whole privacy thing," said Matt Sundeen, a transportation analyst for the National Conference of State Legislatures. "A lot of legislators are concerned about privacy issues and the cost. It's an estimated $11 billion implementation cost."

    The law's supporters say it is needed to prevent terrorists and illegal immigrants from getting fake identification cards.

    States will have to comply by May 2008. If they do not, driver's licenses that fall short of Real ID's standards cannot be used to board an airplane or enter a federal building or open some bank accounts.

    About a dozen states have active legislation against Real ID, including Arizona, Georgia, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Missouri, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Utah and Wyoming.

    Missouri state Rep. James Guest, a Republican, formed a coalition of lawmakers from 34 states to file bills that oppose or protest Real ID.

    Though most states oppose the law, some such as Indiana and Maryland are looking to comply with Real ID, Sundeen said.

    The issue may be moot for states if Congress takes action.
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    Dirigo
    "In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

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    • #3
      It's an estimated $11 billion implementation cost.
      I remember when Republicans used to be against unfunded federal mandates.

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      • #4
        And against the government having information on you.
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          JM
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Zkribbler
            I remember when Republicans used to be against unfunded federal mandates.
            Indeed. Mandating they change their license procedures and then saying they have to pay for it themselves is why these states are most likely balking.

            The privacy issues, while also important, are likely secondary concerns.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.â€
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi
              Dirigo
              Ditto to Dirigo

              For those who don't know, which in this case is pointedly true and concise is what Dirigo means.. "I LEAD"

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              • #8
                Money is always the first thing local governments worry about when the national government mandates something.
                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                • #9
                  It should be a concern, and let's not forget that the federal government is to serve the state's interests. It only exists because it has states that acknowledge it.
                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                  "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                  He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                  • #10
                    I want it to serve my interests, not my state's. And I want my state to serve my interests too. Is that too much to ask? Apparently so.
                    Last edited by chequita guevara; February 4, 2007, 16:53.
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • #11
                      I just thought you could follow the dotted line, Che. I'm glad you figured out that, yes indeed, it's all supposed to serve the people.
                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • #12
                        Dude, I can't follow any line right now.
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • #13
                          to national ids

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                          • #14
                            It is not a national ID, it is simply a set of standards that keep states like NY from printing their drivers licenses on tissue paper with crayon.

                            If they were requiring blood samples a la Gatica then there may be a point in objecting, otherwise it is just whining.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by asleepathewheel
                              to unfunded mandates
                              Fixed.
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