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  • #31
    Originally posted by Perfection
    Huh? I'm just saying that there's already space faring intelligent beings, so we know they're possible.
    Please provide evidence - I guess that most of the world population would be eager to know.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

    Steven Weinberg

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    • #32
      Apollo 11?
      What?

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      • #33
        @ BlackCat
        THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
        AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
        AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
        DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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        • #34
          God.

          Intelligent alien life may exist, but I don't believe we'll ever know for certain.

          Yetis?! Pfft. Once you've seen one yeti you've seen them all, really.

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          • #35
            BlackCat is right. I see no evidence that there are.

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            • #36
              All of the above.
              I want to believe.
              I am on a mission to see how much coffee it takes to actually achieve time travel.

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              • #37
                Beer does exist
                Blah

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                • #38
                  God. Without God no little green aliens and no us to wonder about little green men. Yeti? Ditto.
                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                  "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                  He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                    BlackCat is right. I see no evidence that there are.
                    Ummmm...just from the top of my head...Humans!

                    Spec.
                    -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Japher
                      So, Elok, you think if you believe in God than you have to believe in ghosts?
                      That doesn't follow. I just said that they do not appear to be a matter of probability. Probability at least potentially describes the compound effects of many known or anticipated factors to produce a variety of known or anticipated results with a certain frequency. So, the probability of alien life can be calculated (roughly) as the probability of life emerging on any given planet, of that life progressing from simple to multi-celled, yadda yadda; there's a whole theory or theorem or something (Planck's, is it?) describing the things that have to happen for spacefaring aliens to occur, all of which could be calculated. I don't know it that well and I'm on dialup, hogging the phone lines, so I won't go into detail, but it is a matter of probability--at least in theory. The Yeti/Bigfoot is hypothetically an animal like any other, somewhat akin to an australopithecus. Rules of probability might apply there as well.

                      God, if God exists, would not exist as a result of variables we are familiar with, as God is not an effect from our perspective but an ultimate cause. If God is an effect, He/She/It is the effect of variables we cannot know or guess ("What are the odds of Shiva and Shakti having coitus (p1), times the odds of fertile union (p2), times the odds of...").

                      Ghosts are somewhat different, in that if they are an effect they are the effect of unknown/undescribed causes. Barring our ability to detect and measure ectoplasm or something like that, they're an unquantifiable question mark.

                      And yeah, I just fed a troll. It beats working.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Spec


                        Ummmm...just from the top of my head...Humans!

                        Spec.


                        Yup, humans has put a man on the moon, so of course interstellar flight has been proven to be possible wich proves the existance of small green aliens that of course all are eager to visit our planet
                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                        Steven Weinberg

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                        • #42
                          The choice is "Intelligent Alien Life Capable of Space Travel" not interstellar travel.

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                          • #43
                            That's not what he said
                            THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                            AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                            AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                            DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                            • #44
                              I find it surprising the four times as many voters believe that intelligent aliens are more likely to exist than God.

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                              • #45
                                What is really depressing is that there actually is people that have voted on god
                                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                                Steven Weinberg

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