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  • #16
    US 'victory' against cult leader was 'massacre'
    By Patrick Cockburn in Baghdad
    Published: 31 January 2007

    There are growing suspicions in Iraq that the official story of the battle outside Najaf between a messianic Iraqi cult and the Iraqi security forces supported by the US, in which 263 people were killed and 210 wounded, is a fabrication. The heavy casualties may be evidence of an unpremeditated massacre.

    A picture is beginning to emerge of a clash between an Iraqi Shia tribe on a pilgrimage to Najaf and an Iraqi army checkpoint that led the US to intervene with devastating effect. The involvement of Ahmed al-Hassani (also known as Abu Kamar), who believed himself to be the coming Mahdi, or Messiah, appears to have been accidental.

    The story emerging on independent Iraqi websites and in Arabic newspapers is entirely different from the government's account of the battle with the so-called "Soldiers of Heaven", planning a raid on Najaf to kill Shia religious leaders.

    The cult denied it was involved in the fighting, saying it was a peaceful movement. The incident reportedly began when a procession of 200 pilgrims was on its way, on foot, to celebrate Ashura in Najaf. They came from the Hawatim tribe, which lives between Najaf and Diwaniyah to the south, and arrived in the Zarga area, one mile from Najaf at about 6am on Sunday. Heading the procession was the chief of the tribe, Hajj Sa'ad Sa'ad Nayif al-Hatemi, and his wife driving in their 1982 Super Toyota sedan because they could not walk. When they reached an Iraqi army checkpoint it opened fire, killing Mr Hatemi, his wife and his driver, Jabar Ridha al-Hatemi. The tribe, fully armed because they were travelling at night, then assaulted the checkpoint to avenge their fallen chief.

    Members of another tribe called Khaza'il living in Zarga tried to stop the fighting but they themselves came under fire. Meanwhile, the soldiers and police at the checkpoint called up their commanders saying they were under attack from al-Qai'da with advanced weapons. Reinforcements poured into the area and surrounded the Hawatim tribe in the nearby orchards. The tribesmen tried - in vain - to get their attackers to cease fire.

    American helicopters then arrived and dropped leaflets saying: "To the terrorists, surrender before we bomb the area." The tribesmen went on firing and a US helicopter was hit and crashed killing two crewmen. The tribesmen say they do not know if they hit it or if it was brought down by friendly fire. The US aircraft launched an intense aerial bombardment in which 120 tribesmen and local residents were killed by 4am on Monday.

    The messianic group led by Ahmad al-Hassani, which was already at odds with the Iraqi authorities in Najaf, was drawn into the fighting because it was based in Zarga and its presence provided a convenient excuse for what was in effect a massacre. The Hawatim and Khaza'il tribes are opposed to the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI) and the Dawa Party, who both control Najaf and make up the core of the Baghdad government.

    This account cannot be substantiated and is drawn from the Healing Iraq website and the authoritative Baghdad daily Azzaman. But it would explain the disparity between the government casualties - less than 25 by one account - and the great number of their opponents killed and wounded. The Iraqi authorities have sealed the site and are not letting reporters talk to the wounded.

    Sectarian killings across Iraq also marred the celebration of the Shia ritual of Ashura. A suicide bomber killed 23 worshippers and wounded 57 others in a Shia mosque in Balad Ruz. Not far away in Khanaqin, in Diyala, a bomb killed 13 people, including three women, and wounded 29 others. In east Baghdad mortar bombs killed 17 people.


    Interesting. Could have all been a tragic mistake after all...

    I'm not saying this account is true yet, but it's not the first time the US has been guilty of massacring dozens of innocent civilians.

    Nice to note that the Iran Shia got the US to get rid of a few of their Shia enemies...
    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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    • #17
      Mobius, that has got to be one of the most brazen threadjacks in the 10,000-year history of Apolyton! My God, man, have you balls or what?!

      Gatekeeper
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      • #18


        I may have made a mistake somewhere...
        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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        • #19
          "Cockburn" is a funny name
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          • #20
            @ Mobius and Gatekeeper

            As for the incident, **** happens, I guess. To jail her was certainly not without reason, albeit a bit tasteless given her present situation. To deny her the second dose was outrageous however, and the jail worker shouldn't get away with it if she really becomes pregnant.

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            • #21
              Making the Jailer pay for an abortion and the counseling required by the woman would be minimum sentence. Or if the pregnancy went full term then payng child support should be definately required.
              You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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              • #22
                Here I thought this was a latest development on the Duke Lacrosse rape story.
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                • #23
                  The cops in this case didn't have an option but to arrest her. If you have outstanding warrants, you get arrested.

                  The entire story line about the meds being denied based on the employee's religious convictions is hearing it from only one side. I would bet that more than likely the employee was following some type of medication dispensing policy, and simply added a comment regarding some religious conviction. Now the comment is not needed at all (and the employee should be talked to about it), but it was probably not what prevented the medications from being dispenced.

                  In the end, the DA is now attempting to write a policy giving Police MORE discrectionary powers. As a cop, I have no problem with this; but one of the biggest complaints against cops is in regards to police descretion. I fail to see how this will help matters.
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                  • #24
                    Now the comment is not needed at all (and the employee should be talked to about it), but it was probably not what prevented the medications from being dispenced


                    If there is a policy against dispensing legally-prescribed drugs to prisoners in a fashion consistent with the prescription instructions then this lady has everything she needs to sue the city and the police dept.
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
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                    • #25
                      On the contrary... it is possible that the situation is similar with our jail. All incoming meds need to be verified by an on duty nurse before they are dispensed to an inmate. Our Jail does not have 24 hour nursing.

                      Basically, whatever meds are brought in need to be checked to make sure that they are in-fact what is listed on the perscription. Do not assume that the person you just arrested is the stand-up citizen he appears to be.

                      Just the other day I had to snatch someone's inhaler out of their hands when they were trying to take some after they were arrested. Sure it turned out to actually be an abuteral inhaler, but at the time how did I know the thing wasn't laced with some other drug?
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                      • #26
                        How would an asthma attack had been handled in that situation after you snatched his inhaler away?
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                        • #27
                          And if the guy you arrested died from an asthma attack?

                          damn
                          You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Donegeal
                            On the contrary... it is possible that the situation is similar with our jail. All incoming meds need to be verified by an on duty nurse before they are dispensed to an inmate. Our Jail does not have 24 hour nursing.
                            Then you are opening yourself up to lawsuits. Seriously, some medications need to be taken in a timely manner. If you do not make them available then serious health consequences can result. If they do, then your department is going to find itself in real trouble.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • #29
                              We'd be opening ourselves to alot more lawsuits if we just let them have the stuff. Imagine the headline "Man dies of Cocaine overdose from drugs given by officers!".

                              We get sued all the time. I bet 90-95% get dismissed or never make it past the lawyers (as no one will take their cases).
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                              • #30
                                ?

                                And people don't die from heroin overdoses in Prison? Anyone ever get sued then?
                                You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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