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    A friend of mine who served in Iraq complained that when his unit would go into combat backed by Iraqis, they he'd turn around and see the Iraqis going the other way.

    It looks as if they're finally growing a backbone.

    Iraqis: 250 Insurgents Dead Near Najaf


    BAGHDAD, Iraq -- U.S.-backed Iraqi troops on Sunday attacked insurgents allegedly plotting to kill pilgrims at a major Shiite Muslim religious festival, and Iraqi officials estimated some 250 militants died in the daylong battle near Najaf. A U.S. helicopter crashed during the fight, killing two American soldiers.

    Mortar shells, meanwhile, hit the courtyard of a girls' school in a mostly Sunni Arab neighborhood of Baghdad, killing five pupils and wounding 20. U.N. officials deplored the attack, calling the apparent targeting of children "an unforgivable crime."

    Two car bombs exploded within a half hour in the northern city of Kirkuk, killing 11 people and wounding 34, police Brig. Gen. Sarhad Qader said. Three ethnic groups - Arabs, Kurds and Turkomen - are in a bitter struggle for control of that oil-rich area.

    In addition to confirming the two Americans killed in the helicopter crash near Najaf, the U.S. command announced three combat deaths from Saturday - one Marine in the Sunni insurgent stronghold of Anbar province and two Army soldiers in the Baghdad area.

    Authorities said Iraqi soldiers supported by U.S. aircraft fought all day with a large group of insurgents in the Zaraq area, about 12 miles northeast of the Shiite holy city of Najaf.

    Col. Ali Nomas, spokesman for Iraqi security forces in Najaf, said more than 250 corpses had been found. Iraqi army Maj. Gen. Othman al-Ghanemi also spoke of 250 dead but said an exact number would not be released until Monday. He said 10 gunmen had been captured, including one Sudanese.

    Provincial Gov. Assad Sultan Abu Kilel said the assault was launched because the insurgents planned to attack Shiite pilgrims and clerics during ceremonies marking Ashoura, the holiest day in the Shiite calendar commemorating the 7th century death of Imam Hussein. The celebration culminates Tuesday in huge public processions in Karbala and other Shiite cities.

    Officials were unclear about the religious affiliation of the militants. Although Sunni Arabs have been the main force behind insurgent groups, there are a number of Shiite militant and splinter groups that have clashed from time to time with the government.

    Iraqi soldiers attacked at dawn and militants hiding in orchards fought back with automatic weapons, sniper rifles and rockets, the governor said. He said the insurgents were members of a previously unknown group called the Army of Heaven.

    "They are well-equipped and they even have anti-aircraft missiles," the governor said. "They are backed by some locals" loyal to ousted dictator Saddam Hussein.

    Abu Kilel said two Iraqi policemen were killed and 15 wounded, but there was no word on other Iraqi government casualties.

    A U.S. statement said the American helicopter went down while "conducting operations to assist Iraqi Security Forces" in the attack. It said two crew members died and their bodies were recovered. The statement did not give any information on why the aircraft crashed.

    It was the second U.S. military helicopter to do down in eight days. Twelve U.S. soldiers died Jan. 20 when a Black Hawk crashed northeast of Baghdad. The Army says it is investigating the cause, but a Pentagon official has said debris indicated it was downed by a missile.

    The mortar attack in Baghdad occurred about 11 a.m. at the Kholoud Secondary School in the Adil neighborhood, police and school officials said. The principal, Fawzyaa Hatrosh Sawadi, said students were mingling in the courtyard during a break in exams when at least two shells exploded.

    The blasts shattered windows in classrooms, spraying students with shards of glass. Associated Press Television News footage showed pools of blood on the stone steps and walkways. A fin from a mortar shell lay on the ground.

    Hours after the attack, grieving parents wept as the bodies of their children were placed in wooden coffins. Police said four of the girls were killed instantly and a fifth died later.

    In a joint statement, UNICEF and UNESCO called the attack "yet another tragic reminder of the risks facing Iraq's schoolchildren."

    No group claimed responsibility for the attack, but a Sunni organization, the General Conference of the People of Iraq, blamed Shiite Muslim militias with ties to government security forces. The group said in a statement that the mortar shells bore markings indicating they were manufactured in Iran, which U.S. officials accuse of supporting Shiite militias.

    Three bombings, meanwhile, struck Shiite districts in Baghdad, killing at least seven people and wounding 61, police said.

    The worst incident was a car bomb that killed at least four and wounded 39 at an outdoor market in Sadr City, a sprawling slum that is a stronghold of the Mahdi Army of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, a militia blamed for much of Iraq's sectarian bloodshed.

    The mortar attack and bombings appeared to be part of the sectarian reprisal killings that have pushed Iraq into civil warfare over the past year, violence that President Bush hopes to quell by sending up to 21,500 more American soldiers to Baghdad and surrounding areas.

    U.S. officials have long accused al-Qaida in Iraq, a Sunni Muslim group, of fanning sectarian hatreds by staging vicious attacks on Shiite civilians. Revenge killings have surged since the bombing of a Shiite shrine in the largely Sunni city of Samarra last Feb. 22.

    The two car bombs in Kirkuk exploded within 30 minutes of each other in different parts of the city, 180 miles north of Baghdad. The first blast was at a car dealership, killing six people and wounding 19, said Qader, the police general said. The second went off at a popular restaurant, killing five and injuring 15, he said.

    In Baghdad, police said they found 39 bullet-riddled bodies throughout the city Sunday, apparent victims of sectarian death squads. Ten more bodies were recovered floating down the Tigris River 25 miles south of the capital.

    Drive-by shooters killed a high-ranking Shiite official at the Industry and Mines Ministry along with his 27-year-old daughter and two other people, police said.

    A car bomb exploded near a mosque in the Sunni city of Fallujah, 40 miles west of Baghdad, killing two civilians and wounding four, police said.

    The U.S. command announced the arrest of 21 suspected terrorists, including an al-Qaida courier, in a series of raids in Baghdad and Sunni areas north and west of the capital. Three are believed to have close ties to the leadership of al-Qaida in Iraq, the military said.

  • #2
    What's so surprising about the Shia-dominated Iraqi Army killing a bunch of Sunni insurgents? The problem with the Iraqi Army is that they're too gung-ho about killing Sunnis and not nearly as dependable when it comes to fighting Shia militias...
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    • #3
      You're either with us or against us. It fit then, it fits now for Iraqis.
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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      • #4
        What does that even mean?
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        • #5
          Probably nothing, given the source.
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          • #6
            RoboCon, is that you?

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            • #7
              It means, setting off car bombs isn't to be tolerated. It's agaisnt the law, and anyone doing it should be stopped. Any side. All sides. RoboCon included.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                What's so surprising about the Shia-dominated Iraqi Army killing a bunch of Sunni insurgents? The problem with the Iraqi Army is that they're too gung-ho about killing Sunnis and not nearly as dependable when it comes to fighting Shia militias...
                The Iraqi Army hasn't been too gung ho about going after anybody. That's why IMHO this is big news.

                Yes, the big test is when they try to neutalize the Shiia militias, but for now, this is a big first step.

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                • #9
                  I would take the body count with a grain of salt the size of a small car, though I am sure that since air support was called they probably killed a good number, and more importantly, stopped whatever attack was planned.
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                  • #10
                    A "grain" of anything can't be "the size of a small car"...
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                    • #11
                      It is progress that the Shia military is going after Sunnis. To date, only the militia have been active agains the Sunnis. Hoping for the Shia military to control all comers is too much to hope for. Baby steps, people. Glad that the Shia are finally learning to fight. Only reason that they are so dominated by Sunnis is because of how pathetic they are, have been.

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                      • #12
                        For the record, reports say the insurgents killed were both Sunni and Shia (some faction opposed to Sistani).
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TCO
                          Hoping for the Shia military to control all comers is too much to hope for. Baby steps, people.
                          How wonderful that, after four years of bloody occupation, we are making baby steps

                          Now that's progress, people!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                            What does that even mean?
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cyclotron
                              How wonderful that, after four years of bloody occupation, we are making baby steps

                              Now that's progress, people!
                              You know, that may have more to do with the general state of Arab civilization than any actions or lack thereof taken by the Coalition.

                              But don't let reality get in the way of placing any blame.

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