Study: Damage to brain erases nicotine cravings

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
As an ex-smoker I should say that if there is one thing worse than smoking it is prig, pious, sanctimonious anti-smoking zealots, who take their misanthropic lead from the first ever group of anti-smoking fanatics, who were of course the nazi party.

Yeah, I hate them too - what a bunch of hypocrites!

I couldn't care less if people smoke or not - I just happen to think they are idiots in the extreme...

I welcome the discovery in the OP, and I wonder if the same part of the brain is also responsible for some people's addiction to being vile, obnoxious, rude, compulsively-insulting a$$holes.

Then we could make those smokers nice people as well as getting them to quit their habit.

To bad you've already quit smoking - because now it's no longer a two for one cure for you!

[OzzyKP]

This is so easy to spin. Cigarettes are so good, only the brain damaged don't smoke.

[Arrian]

I can't claim to have been in my right mind when I "took up" smoking. I was 16 (or was it 17?), and lots of 16-17 year olds are not in their right minds.

Lots of people do stupid, reckless, unhealthy things, especially when they're young and feel invincible (cue Ozzy with charges of "ageism"). Smoking is perhaps exhibit A.

Anyway, I don't know that this discovery has any practical implications, but if so, great. Though the truth is that if you decide to quit, you can quit. Many have done it, myself included.

-Arrian

[Solly]

I can't believe I'm agreeing with that tosser Mobius

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
nazi

Thread over. wtg.

[Fake Boris]

Mobius, every time you spend a dime you're closer to death anyway.

[Victor Galis]

I keep hearing people comparing smoking to eating unhealthy foods, though I've yet to see someone die from second-hand eating

[Provost Harrison]

I can't wait until July

[Solly]

It's going to be ace

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Arrian
I can't claim to have been in my right mind when I "took up" smoking. I was 16 (or was it 17?), and lots of 16-17 year olds are not in their right minds.

Lots of people do stupid, reckless, unhealthy things, especially when they're young and feel invincible (cue Ozzy with charges of "ageism"). Smoking is perhaps exhibit A.

Anyway, I don't know that this discovery has any practical implications, but if so, great. Though the truth is that if you decide to quit, you can quit. Many have done it, myself included.

-Arrian

Ageist.



Unlike our ancestors, western society has lost a process of transition to adulthood. Heck, we've lost a definition of adulthood. Gone are vision quests and rites of passage. So how does one become an adult? What does it mean to be an adult?

One becomes an adult by sitting around and waiting till your 18th birthday (or 21 in some cases). What magical transformation occurs on that day? Well you are welcomed into the world of adults and granted adult privileges that let you smoke, and drink, and watch porn and buy a gun. The only rite of passage we have left is going to a strip club on one's 18th birthday, or going to a bar and getting ****-faced on one's 21st.

To be an adult in the western world is to smoke and drink. Like it or not, that is just how our society is structured and that lesson is not lost on youth.

Being an adult is about being accepted, being respected, being powerful in society. Being part of the "majority" (i.e. no longer being a minor). Who wouldn't want to be an adult? It is hard wired into our genes.

And since adult is synonymous with smoking and drinking and ****ing, well then the way to be an adult is to smoke and drink and have sex. And many do.

There is nothing reckless or stupid about it, it is a perfectly logical and rational decision.

What is stupid and reckless is the way our society has created a link between adulthood and reckless, irresponsible activities (smoking, drinking, etc) when adulthood should be about responsibility. If you want to take issue with anything, take issue with the way western society is structured and the way it seeks to divide youth and adults in law and attitudes.

[MOBIUS]

It's the 2nd of April here!

I guess the assembly government didn't want to rub it in by making it April Fool's Day...

[Imran Siddiqui]

well then the way to be an adult is to smoke and drink and have sex.

Or at least 2 out of 3 .

[Provost Harrison]

I need to drink more...

[Snotty]

Ozzy, maybe the right of passage is having a kid of your own? thats the thing I hear the most about making you an adult/life changing/making you grow up fast etc.

I feel like Im a big kid, its great, but Im not a dad yet. I didnt start understanding I felt like a kid and it was good until well after I had started drinking and smoking though.

[Arrian]

There is nothing reckless or stupid about it, it is a perfectly logical and rational decision.

Sweet, you've managed to rationalize my dumb decision. Cool!

Actually, I found your argument interesting. I dunno if I buy it, but it's interesting. Thanks for that.

-Arrian