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  • DoD Lays Off Case Workers for Wounded Soldiers

    This is the kind of crap which is so typical of the Bush administation. Bush announced this organization in 205 in order to help severely disabled vets cope with losing limbs and perment disfigurement and hopefully successfully move back into the civilian world. Now less then two years later the administration has laid most of the case workers off.

    This administration has always crapped on vets and treated them like garbage. This is a national disgrace. Even Army Times, which is usually a yes-man paper for anything the administration wants is shedding its traditionally timid editorial style and calling a spade a spade.

    Sources say case workers for wounded laid off

    By Karen Jowers - Staff writer
    Posted : Saturday Jan 20, 2007 8:33:08 EST

    Defense Department officials have laid off most of their case workers who help severely injured service members, sources said.

    The case workers for the Military Severely Injured Center serve as advocates for wounded service members who have questions or issues related to benefits, financial resources and their successful return to duty or reintegration into civilian life — all forms of support other than medical care.

    The center officially opened in February 2005, with its primary offices in Arlington, Va., but also hired advocates at hospitals around the country.

    Four sources said the decision was made to cut back the personnel because officials with the Army’s Wounded Warrior program felt the Defense Department program was a duplication of efforts.

    Defense officials did not comment on the actions as of Jan. 19. Wounded Warrior officials also could not be reached.

    Reports indicate that Fort Hood, Texas; Fort Lewis, Wash.; and Fort Campbell, Ky., were among the locations that had case workers cut. It is not clear what will happen to case workers at the Arlington center.

    The only case workers that have not been laid off are at three hospitals: Brooke Army Medical Center, Texas; Tripler Army Medical Center, Hawaii; and Naval Medical Center San Diego, sources said. But those case workers will not be allowed to work with soldiers and must refer them to the Army Wounded Warrior program.

    The laid-off workers were told Wednesday to finish up their case work with severely injured troops, and that Friday would be their last day.

    “I’m just livid about this,” said Janice Buckley, Washington state chapter president for Operation Homefront.

    She was notified that the two case workers at Fort Lewis were given short notice that their jobs were ending, but she has no further information.

    “They did a fabulous job for these families,” Buckley said. “The kind of work they do for these families who are hanging by a thread ... no other organization helped service members and their families like they did.”

    The MSIC case workers provided the wounded service members with contacts and referrals to other organizations and agencies, ranging from the Department of Veterans Affairs to the Social Security Administration, depending on their individual needs. Operation Homefront often helps with the families’ emergency financial needs.
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    The case workers for the Military Severely Injured Center serve as advocates for wounded service members who have questions or issues related to benefits, financial resources and their successful return to duty or reintegration into civilian life — all forms of support other than medical care.
    ...

    Four sources said the decision was made to cut back the personnel because officials with the Army’s Wounded Warrior program felt the Defense Department program was a duplication of efforts.
    Which is absolutely correct, I can name half a dozen DoD organizations that do the exact same thing off the top of my head, one of which is in the article.

    Don't be such a reactionary, THINK about why they might do that for a change.
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    • #3
      Seriously Oerdin, if it was a duplication of efforts what's the problem with cutting the program back? I thought you were against government waste.
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      • #4
        They always find an excuse but at the end of the day vets are still waiting in long lines and not getting the help they need.

        It is a disgrace.
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        • #5
          Then the real solution is to push the government to expand their existing programs (such as by hiring the laid off workers in the redundant programs). Document and publicize the long waits that veterans are facing. I think that would be the best way to improve things.

          There was a segment on HBO real sports about the disability payments being made to retired football players. We need something like that for veterans.
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          • #6
            There are disability payments for disabled vets. The problem is it is not a very large amount. Certainly not enough to live on if you are, say, a vet who has had both arms blown off.
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            • #7
              I did not mean the dsability payments

              I meant we needed a show like that -

              They listed the following:
              There are over 9,000 retired NFL football players
              only 143 are receiving disability payments

              They showed Conrad Dobler in shorts. His knees looked like cantaloupes and he had trouble walking. He had 7 surgeries on his knees in the last year and was only coping due to a huge supply of vicodin. The NFL manager to find 1 doctor out of several that said Conrad Dobler could do some sedentary work. Therefore, the NFL denied his claim for disability benefits.

              They interviewed at least one other ex-player who could barely walk. Again, the NFL found 1 doctor out of several that said he could do sedentary work.

              I think we need a similar show highlighting a few of the more egregious cases of disabled veterans not getting help or waiting forever for help.
              “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

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              • #8
                That would likely stir up some people, yeah.

                I'd prefer that it's not all emotional appeal (some cold, hard statistics would be good too).

                Anyway, some agitation concerning veterans' benifits (or lack thereof) would be more useful to the country than (hollow) cries of "support the troops" to back stupid, badly executed wars that get soldiers wounded.

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                • #9
                  I'm just reporting what the Army Times printed.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Oerdin
                    They always find an excuse but at the end of the day vets are still waiting in long lines and not getting the help they need.
                    Assuming the "excuse" is correct and the program is a duplication of services already provided, wouldn't that be an arguement for "fully funding" the original program rather than maintaining yet another "under funded" program? I'm just curious why you feel outraged over the discontinuation of a program that would be a waste of taxpayer funds.
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                    • #11
                      Hm,
                      as for Bush and the Veterans:
                      Wasn´t there even, just before his last reelection the case that Bush, during his election campaign, spoke to the veterans and said that his government would care for them,
                      and only weeks later, after winning the election, cut their payments?
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                      • #12
                        No. Have you ever met anyone, veteran or none, who can't complain about their health care of benefit plans?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          I'm just curious why you feel outraged over the discontinuation of a program that would be a waste of taxpayer funds.
                          I think we can find a few clues in this thread

                          courtesy Patrokolos

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Patroklos
                            Have you ever met anyone, veteran or none, who can't complain about their health care of benefit plans?
                            Yes. Yes I have. I've also seen it in action first hand so I agree with most of what these people said. How did we meet you ask? Simple we were both siting in a very, very long line at an Army hospital in Fort Bragg. Army health care can be good if you are active duty but it tends to be strictly rationed and lines are normally quite long. If you aren't active duty and are say a disabled combat vet trying to get service out of the VA then good luck.

                            First you have to find a VA hospital and some states have only one which might be hundreds of miles away. Once you found it you need to make an appointment; an appointment which often gets bumped. Remember step one about VA hospitals often being hundreds of miles away? How do you think you'd feel after driving for six hours just so you can wait in line for 8 hours only to be told to come back tomorrow? Then of course the care at VA hospitals can be problematic in that specialists are often only at certain hospitals but you need a refural from a gate keeper to see the specialist and of course the gate keeper is some times in a different location.

                            Yes. I'd say the VA is massively underfunded and that our vets are getting **** on.
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