Day One of "The Surge" 25 Dead US Soldiers...

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Cranky
Damn i would love to drive one of those Abrams.

Looks like the inside of an Abrams seems to be one of the safest places you can find in Iraq at the moment

[Kuciwalker]

All I am saying is that "The Surge" hasn't even begun and it's 'business as usual' in Iraq...

... duh?

[MOBIUS]

Business as usual for Kuci as well it seems...

[SlowwHand]

As of 6:54 a.m.
• Bombs kill at least 78 people in Baghdad

[Pekka]

Do you guys know what it is with these bombs, I mean they seem to be killing a whole lot of people in single cases. Are they so just big ass bombs, that they are very powerful, or are they used in places where lots of peopel frequent. We get these 50+ death tolls all the time it seems, so even if it was a place where lots of people commuted, the figures seem to be very high.

Maybe it is a combination of a big bomb, well placed, and well executed plans? Well, they have had the time to try things so I guess they are learning how to kill scores of people with a bomb.

Anyway

[Kropotkin]

From my media consumption it seems like there's a popular opinion that more american troops equals more dead americans. That's an example of twister logic in my opinion. If more troops means better and more frequent patrols it might as well have the opposite effect - for a while at least.

[SlowwHand]

It's just Mobius clicking his teeth again.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Geronimo
not appearing to gloat over war casualities

Unfortunately, I must agree.

[Pekka]

Right, more troops mean better resources and ability to patrol and stabilize as much as possible.

Assume we had very few cops, so getting in more cops, it's not going to mean more crime. Not necessarily less crime either, but at least there's better chances to prevent one or two crimes. The role of the troops is to be a stabilizing force and also preventive. Well, it doesn't work, not enough people there, but still, adding some more is not going to rise the de facto deaths by default. It can have the opposite effect.

And when it comes to the army, the troops won't do politics. They do battle. Of course, it is in the hands of politicians to send them for the right cause, however, if you want to be a thinker and not do any battle, don't join the army. It is ALWAYS against someones morals, or an idea of a good cause. It's a choice you can make, if you don't want to fight, don't join the army. Pretty simple... and the 'ooh but the poor are forced to do the fighting', yeah, what ever, it's still a choice. If you figure the money is good enough to risk your life and do battle, it's still a choice someone made. Unlike in draft. You know, a thing we have. And if battle should ensue, we don't even get paid. And no, there's no choice either. And if you're poor, the military won't give you an option, in fact it'll make you poorer because you need to be able to support yourself during your service. So from this perspective, stop whining, it's a free choice, stick with it. If you want to be doing something else instead, well by all means don't let the military stop you.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Lorizael


Unfortunately, I must agree.

But then we'd all wonder what happened to MOBIUS.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by MOBIUS
Business as usual for Kuci as well it seems...

He does indeed regularly point out your silliness. It's one of his few agreeable characteristics.

[Elok]

We don't "tolerate" him, genius. His approval ratings are pitiful, but the system doesn't allow us to kick out Presidents on a whim. We'd have to impeach him, which would take so damned long that he'd be almost out anyway by the time we were finished, plus the spectacle would distract us from Iraq and various other problems for its duration. And I don't think Congress wants to go down that road anyway. Everything you're saying has been said by Democrat wingnuts online for years--except they went to some effort to not seem sexually aroused at the thought of American soldiers being killed to prove them right.

And your comeback sucked.

[SlowwHand]

It's not hard to figure out why so many bomb victims.
If you blow up an unsusprcting group of students outside their school, or a group of people leaving worship, dirty deed done. Mission accomplished.

But Mobius raves on.

[Pekka]

I think it's still interesting how the death toll seems to always high these days. Getting like 70 at once is not easy, even if it's a crowded place. I mean DEAD, not dead plus injured combined.

[SlowwHand]

If you blow up a location that's crowded, it's not so unusual to have this type casualties. Let's don't leave out markets. Now those people certainly deserve to be blown up, don't they?