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  • #76
    They're obviously the Quebec of Great Britain.

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    • #77
      Now he gets it...
      You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Kuciwalker
        They're obviously the Quebec of Great Britain.
        Scotland entered the union as a samller but still substantial partner, ovet the lat 300 years they have decined relative to england and are not happy about it.

        wheras quebec are French and just can't satnd anglos
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        • #79
          Scotland doesn't have many key resources in the same way.
          They have the North Sea Oil
          Last edited by Talkie_Toaster; January 22, 2007, 05:05.

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          • #80
            And gas. But in very small quantities, compared to the world market.
            Smile
            For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
            But he would think of something

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Lazerus
              Should scrap all devolution full stop and rule the entire UK from westminister.
              Why not move to a cheaper city? All those departments must cost a fortune in London weighting.

              Scotland entered the union as a samller but still substantial partner, ovet the lat 300 years they have decined relative to england and are not happy about it.
              In population yes, although in terms of economy Scotland was (IIRC) one fortieth as wealthy as England in 1707.

              Scotland doesn't have many key resources in the same way.
              Soldiers?

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Sandman
                Why not move to a cheaper city? All those departments must cost a fortune in London weighting.
                Much of the civil service is already out of town, AIUI, but the actual seat of government itself is always in the capital city. For London to not be the capital would be unthinkable.

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                • #83
                  So it's the capital because it's the capital? It's not as if it would lose anything, any more than New York or Toronto or Sydney have lost out by not being capitals.

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                  • #84
                    I suspect moving the seat of government somewhere else would just raise the prices there, not save the government any money. They'd probably lose money overall from the migration. There'd be even larger hidden costs from the necessary relocation of all the government contractors.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Sandman
                      So it's the capital because it's the capital? It's not as if it would lose anything, any more than New York or Toronto or Sydney have lost out by not being capitals.
                      Excuse me for being a conservative old fuddy-duddy on this matter, but those cities have no history. Places like London, Paris and Rome can't just step aside and cede power to some provincial second-stringer like Lyon or Liverpool just because the price is right. :wavesstick:

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                      • #86
                        The UK should move its capital to Brussels.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Colonâ„¢
                          The UK should move its capital to Brussels.
                          Wouldn't it have to acquire sovereignty over Brussels first?

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Sandman
                            So it's the capital because it's the capital? It's not as if it would lose anything, any more than New York or Toronto or Sydney have lost out by not being capitals.
                            Excuse me for being a conservative old fuddy-duddy on this matter, but those cities have no history. Places like London, Paris and Rome can't just step aside and cede power to some provincial second-stringer like Lyon or Liverpool just because the price is right. :wavesstick:
                            Maybe he's anti-Norman and wants it moved back to Winchester

                            I suspect moving the seat of government somewhere else would just raise the prices there, not save the government any money. They'd probably lose money overall from the migration. There'd be even larger hidden costs from the necessary relocation of all the government contractors.
                            Yes and no. Moving the US capital would do that, because there's nothing else in Washington. Moving the UK's capital would only move government, not the major financial centre. Prices are so high becuase it's like New York and Washington, DC in one city. Now, I agree that moving the capital would be largely pointless though.
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Geronimo


                              Wouldn't it have to acquire sovereignty over Brussels first?
                              Don't you see, it's all part of an incredibly subtle and devious plan:

                              By pursuing devolution, they are providing an example for the Belgians. Once the Flemish and Waloons split though, they will argue over who gets to keep Brussels. At this point, English "peacekeepers" will be deployed there to... er... ensure there is no trouble.
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                              • #90
                                Yes and no. Moving the US capital would do that, because there's nothing else in Washington. Moving the UK's capital would only move government, not the major financial centre. Prices are so high becuase it's like New York and Washington, DC in one city. Now, I agree that moving the capital would be largely pointless though.


                                I'm not talking about what the influence on London would be, but the influence on the new city. The new city would be just as congested with the bureaucrats and contractors.

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