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    to Patrick Leahy





    After sitting through withering criticism in a Senate hearing, U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales has promised more information on the case of Maher Arar, a Canadian who ended up in a cell in Syria after U.S. officials grabbed him on a stopover in New York.

    Senator Patrick Leahy criticized the handling of the Maher Arar case: 'It's beneath the dignity of this country — a country that has always been a beacon of human rights — to send somebody to another country to be tortured.'Senator Patrick Leahy criticized the handling of the Maher Arar case: 'It's beneath the dignity of this country — a country that has always been a beacon of human rights — to send somebody to another country to be tortured.'

    Gonzales was grilled relentlessly on Thursday by Senate judiciary committee chairman Patrick Leahy. Leahy said that when Arar — a citizen of both Canada and Syria travelling on a Canadian passport — was detained in 2002, American authorities knew he would be tortured if they deported him to Syria.

    "We knew damn well if he went to Canada he wouldn't be tortured," said Leahy, a Democrat from Vermont. "He'd be held and he'd be investigated.

    "We also knew damn well if he went to Syria, he'd be tortured. And it's beneath the dignity of this country — a country that has always been a beacon of human rights — to send somebody to another country to be tortured.

    "You know and I know that has happened a number of times in the past five years by this country. It is a black mark on us."

    Leahy noted that U.S. officials claimed to have had assurances that people sent to Syria would not be tortured.

    "Assurances," he snorted, "from a country that we also say now that we can't talk to them because we can't take their word for anything."

    Arar, then an Ottawa-based engineer, was detained as a terrorism suspect, apparently because of a bad tip from the RCMP. He was flown to Syria, where he was held for a year.

    In 2006, a Canadian public inquiry cleared him of any involvement in terrorism.

    It was clear that officials from the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush would face a rough questioning on Capitol Hill after the Democrats gained majorities in both the Senate and the House of Representatives in the November 2006 elections.

    Gonzales was not attorney general in 2002 but drafted some of the administration's justifications for harsh interrogation practices in combating terrorism.

    He promised the committee a briefing on the Arar case. It was not immediately clear whether the information would be made public.

    "Before you get more upset," he told Leahy, "perhaps you should wait to receive the briefing."

    "How long?" the senator responded.

    "I'm hoping that we can get you the information next week."


    I've always liked the man. He's not usually a headliner, but whenever I've seen him speak I've been impressed.

    Go **** yourself too, Mr Cheney.

    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
    Stadtluft Macht Frei
    Killing it is the new killing it
    Ultima Ratio Regum

  • #2
    No comments? I assume you all agree, then.
    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
    Stadtluft Macht Frei
    Killing it is the new killing it
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    • #3
      How can a guy who smiles as much as Gonzalez be so utterly evil? Guy enables that administration in so many ways.
      I never know their names, But i smile just the same
      New faces...Strange places,
      Most everything i see, Becomes a blur to me
      -Grandaddy, "The Final Push to the Sum"

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      • #4
        Think a second. Arar could have had planted a bomb. Torturing him was the only way to make sure he hadn't.
        In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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        • #5
          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
          Stadtluft Macht Frei
          Killing it is the new killing it
          Ultima Ratio Regum

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          • #6
            Do you think they will actually release any information? I have serious doubts we will see any evidence that Arar was a potential threat.

            Senator Leahy
            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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            • #7
              Pat Leahy must be the oldest NHL player in the league.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #8
                Jim Leahy's brother?
                "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                • #9
                  Great coach of Notre Dame?
                  I never know their names, But i smile just the same
                  New faces...Strange places,
                  Most everything i see, Becomes a blur to me
                  -Grandaddy, "The Final Push to the Sum"

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                  • #10
                    Sunnyvale supervisor.
                    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                    • #11
                      I read today in the paper that in court cases involving terror suspects, testimony involving hearsay and coercion will be admissible.

                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #12
                        You wouldn't want pesky rules of evidence to interfere with convictions would you?
                        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                          I assume you all agree, then.
                          Yeah.

                          -Arrian
                          grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                          The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                          • #14
                            The Junior Senator from Vermont is even more badass.
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                            -Bokonon

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                            • #15
                              Bernie's hilarious.

                              All the American stations I watched as a kid were from either Plattsburg or Burlington, so I know all those characters from way back (including Howard Dean)...
                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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