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    Washington 'snubbed Iran offer'

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    Iran gives millions of dollars to support the Hezbollah movement
    Iran offered the US a package of concessions in 2003, but it was rejected, a senior former US official has told the BBC's Newsnight programme.

    Tehran proposed ending support for Lebanese and Palestinian militant groups and helping to stabilise Iraq following the US-led invasion.

    Offers, including making its nuclear programme more transparent, were conditional on the US ending hostility.

    But Vice-President Dick Cheney's office rejected the plan, the official said.

    The offers came in a letter, seen by Newsnight, which was unsigned but which the US state department apparently believed to have been approved by the highest authorities.

    In return for its concessions, Tehran asked Washington to end its hostility, to end sanctions, and to disband the Iranian rebel group the Mujahedeen-e-Khalq and repatriate its members.

    Former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had allowed the rebel group to base itself in Iraq, putting it under US power after the invasion.

    One of the then Secretary of State Colin Powell's top aides told the BBC the state department was keen on the plan - but was over-ruled.

    "We thought it was a very propitious moment to do that," Lawrence Wilkerson told Newsnight.

    "But as soon as it got to the White House, and as soon as it got to the Vice-President's office, the old mantra of 'We don't talk to evil'... reasserted itself."

    Observers say the Iranian offer as outlined nearly four years ago corresponds pretty closely to what Washington is demanding from Tehran now.

    Since that time, Lebanese guerrilla group Hezbollah inflicted significant military losses on the major US ally in the region, Israel, in the 2006 conflict and is now claiming increased political power in Lebanon.

    Palestinian militant group Hamas won power in parliamentary elections a year ago, opening a new chapter of conflict in Gaza and the West Bank.

    The UN Security Council has imposed sanctions on Iran following its refusal to suspend its uranium enrichment programme.

    Iran denies US accusations that its nuclear programme is designed to produce weapons.
    The only reason I can see would be that the US planned to invade Iran/create a regime change. The Iranians seem to have offered all the US wanted short of a regime change.

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    Bomb Iran. Now.
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      the senior former US official is probably someone who doesnt much like Cheney. (I can guess who it is - if it is whom I think, ive got his "ten rules" posted in my office)
      Hes probably spinning the offer to make the rejection look bad. Cheney if we were to respond (and he probably wont, he wont confirm ANY offer, he will let it die) would probably say that the nuclear "transparency" did not include suspension of enrichment, that once the MEK was disbanded it would be too late to restart it, but that Iran could easily back out of its promises, etc

      Certainly if Iran had made a reasonable offer, and was meeting unreasonable resistance, they could have leaked it at the time.


      Alternatively - this is an admin approved leak. Cheney has two years to go anyway, and is already weakened. This would have the effect of making Hezb and Hamas and Syria and the Pro-iranian elements in Iraq look over their shoulder at an ally that suddenly doesnt look so stalwart. Cheney is taking a hit for the team, and approved this leak.
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        The details of this supposed offer are awfully hazy.

        It's really hard for me to imagine Iran offering so much in return for... what, exactly? "The US ending hostility" is a pretty meaningless phrase. Iran would have asked for a lot more than "be nice to us, ok?"

        Color me skeptical.

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          It's really hard for me to imagine Iran offering so much in return for... what, exactly? "The US ending hostility" is a pretty meaningless phrase. Iran would have asked for a lot more than "be nice to us, ok?"


          Well, meaning end sanctions, really. And disbanding the Iranian rebel group was probably a big thing as well.
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          • #6
            The point is the information offered up in the article isn't terribly informative. Thus, assuming we believe an offer was made, we really can't say anything intelligent about it because we don't know the specifics.

            In other news, the Israelis offered the Palestinians peace and the Palestinians rejected it, a former Palestinian minister who refused to be named said.

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              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              It's really hard for me to imagine Iran offering so much in return for... what, exactly? "The US ending hostility" is a pretty meaningless phrase. Iran would have asked for a lot more than "be nice to us, ok?"


              Well, meaning end sanctions, really. And disbanding the Iranian rebel group was probably a big thing as well.
              as we have been told repeatedly here, US sanctions on Iran are pretty meaningless. everything they can get from us (other than spare parts for aging planes) they can get from Europe and elsewhere.

              The MEK has never been all that effective, and is not well-liked by the internal opposition.
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