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    Spoilerific: Is Jaime Lannister a villain, a good guy, or just a guy?

    This thread, is spoilerific beyond this point.































    Is Jaime Lannister a good, a bad guy, or just a guy?

    Things against him:
    -Killing the old king
    -Incest
    -Pushing Bran out a window

    Things for him:
    -Killing the old king
    -Saving Tyrion
    -Keeping his promise to not fight house Tuly, when he negotiated a peaceful surrender of Riverun
    -Saving Brienne from being raped
    -Saving Brienne from being killed
    -Intending to return to to Kings Landing, send Ceresei to rot someplace discreet, try to restore a semblance of peace to the land and be an actual father to his son
    -Sent Brienne to find Sansa Stark and keep her safe
    Last edited by Vesayen; January 17, 2007, 15:23.
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  • #2
    Title itself is spoilerific
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #3
      He is a bad guy, who is possibly getting redeemed.

      JM
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      • #4
        He did a lot more evil than that, btw. Or at least was party to.

        JM
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
          Title itself is spoilerific
          How? I questioned the morality of a character.



          I agree with you though Jon.

          He has done some pretty awful things, but he seems to be working towards making amends.



          Originally posted by Jon Miller
          He did a lot more evil than that, btw. Or at least was party to.

          JM
          Such as? I'm not sure you can say he is a party to most of his fathers crimes. He had no hand in killing Robert Barathon(sp), that was all Ceresi.

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          • #6
            Who?
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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            • #7
              How? I questioned the morality of a character.


              Spoiler:
              Someone reading the first book is going to be spoiled that Jaime becomes somewhat sympathetic!
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                Who?
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                • #9
                  Just a guy, for the most part. I blame his sister for corrupting him and his father for being, well, his father. Being removed from those two will help a bit.
                  "In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DinoDoc
                    Who?
                    ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      Who?
                      "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

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                      • #12
                        Ves makes the worst threads... we should have a poll on this, but it'd be 5,000,000 to 1 that he does.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #13
                          Re: Spoilerific: Is Jaime Lannister a villain, a good guy, or just a guy?

                          Originally posted by Vesayen

                          -Pushing Bran out a window
                          The old king sucked and Jamie can do his sister all he wants, but Bran was the first character (and one of the few, actually*) with whom I really connected - so anything Jamie does is tainted by this one act. I view all his actions with suspicion.


                          *characters I give a damn about at this point:
                          Bran
                          Dany
                          Tyrion
                          Arya (although I haven't been enjoying her story as much since see went to Braavos, but I understand that it's "necessary" for the plot, so I put up with it).


                          Oh - and the Hound if he's still alive.
                          "Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
                          "I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
                          "Stuie is right...." - Guynemer

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                          • #14
                            who's doing the what in the where now?

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                            • #15
                              Everyone who said "who" ought to get A Game of Thrones from the library and read it. Now.

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