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    What dorks. Go on strike, and let it be seen how you were jacking around, not giving enough effort while working.
    Read this.

    Sat Jan 6, 8:16 AM ET

    TUCSON, Ariz. - Raytheon Missile Systems has started replacing factory workers who went on strike two months ago after rejecting a contract offer.

    A union spokesman called the hires "an insult to existing employees."

    Production at the factory has risen above pre-strike levels and some projects are ahead of schedule since nearly 2,000 machinists went on strike Nov. 5, Raytheon spokeswoman Sara Hammond said.

    But the company can't keep using its engineers as factory workers indefinitely.
    The plant makes the Javelin anti-tank missile, the Tomahawk missile, air-to-air missiles and ship self-protection missiles.

    Hammond said the company was hiring assembly workers and custodians, but wouldn't say how many.

    Bobby Martinez, International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers Local 933's directing business representative, called Raytheon's announcement a strategic ploy.

    "This is a company tactic to pressure our members into accepting their offer," he said.

    Representatives of the union and Raytheon have separate meetings scheduled with a federal mediator next week.

    Around 90 percent of the union's members voted to reject the contract offer because "it's a below-industry-standards offer and there are some uncertainties in the language of the contract," Martinez said.

    Strikers have said their main concerns are the rising cost of health insurance and minimal raises for the highest-paid employees covered by the contract.

    Raytheon Missile Systems, a division of Raytheon Co., is Southern Arizona's largest private employer with more than 11,000 employees.
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    at the workers.

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    • #3
      Part of that is to be expected if they are using engineers now.

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      • #4
        Why? Engineers aren't experienced factory workers.
        I'll tell you what was happening. The workers were dragging their feet to get overtime. I'd bet you.
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        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #5
          Engineers supposedly designed the things, maybe they know how to cut corners without sacrificing quality.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SlowwHand
            Why? Engineers aren't experienced factory workers.
            I'll tell you what was happening. The workers were dragging their feet to get overtime. I'd bet you.
            No doubt the workers weren't doing all they could.

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            • #7
              And then they wonder why jobs are being sent overseas.
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              • #8
                Defense contracts can't be sent over seas. The Federal government requires most of defense manufacturing to be domestic to North America so if there is a war and shipping lanes are cut the nation can still manufacture its own military equipment.
                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                • #9


                  Strikers have said their main concerns are the rising cost of health insurance and minimal raises for the highest-paid employees covered by the contract.


                  I wonder if most workers realize one of the big reasons they are striking is so the highest paid among them can get a bigger raise.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Verto
                    Part of that is to be expected if they are using engineers now.
                    You got to be kidding me. I have yet to meet an engineer that can build the things they design.

                    In fact, from an operational standpoint, I've yet to see a design that works exactly as an engineer specified.

                    ACK!
                    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tuberski


                      You got to be kidding me. I have yet to meet an engineer that can build the things they design.

                      In fact, from an operational standpoint, I've yet to see a design that works exactly as an engineer specified.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Raytheon replacing striking workers

                        Originally posted by SlowwHand
                        What dorks. Go on strike, and let it be seen how you were jacking around, not giving enough effort while working.
                        Read this.
                        can I get a link?
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                        • #13
                          I doubt engineers would be [inherently] more efficient as factory workers, and would expect them to be less.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                            I doubt engineers would be [inherently] more efficient as factory workers, and would expect them to be less.
                            Unless and mind you I have nothing to justify this comment with, just saying, if someone told Raytheon if they keep "X" amount of supply up to a certain mandated level, then Raytheon could be closed and no one would be eligible to work on a government project again.


                            I know if a defense department contractor gets booted off a federal construction job they may be reviewed and then subsequently denied access to wotk abaord a federal project.

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                            • #15
                              If the Raytheon spokesperson is to be believed. Since government contractors are notorious liars, why should we believe them?
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