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  • #16
    Originally posted by BlackCat
    Just saw in telly that we need another bridge across øresund and one to fehmern, so no need for OL to use the money.
    Oh dear. More bridges.

    Well, the bridge part is not so bad. It's the now-we-have-to-build-more-useless-motorways-elsewhere thing.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Eli
      That money is always paying for something, whether it's the government who pays(no tax-cut) or the citizens(with a tax-cut). My rudimentary understanding says that the overall inflation shouldn't be affected.
      But if everybody is already working flat-out then what does the society as a whole get for the money? Nothing, since people can't produce more than they did before. The money is just being redistributed.
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      • #18
        Winston is gonna blow a gasket when he sees this.

        Remember his recent post, which ended with him thinking about emigrating:

        Today, an agreement was reached between virtually all parties in Parliament that this license will henceforth be known as a Media License, and that it will be extended to include not only TV's, but also certain cell phones and other portable media devices capable of receiving TV signals - as well as all computers equipped with a tuner for receiving TV signals and/or having an Internet connection with a speed of 256 Kbit/s or above.

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        • #19
          If they have such a surplus then why is Denmark raising the TV tax and hitting internet users and mobile phone users with it as well?
          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Oerdin
            If they have such a surplus then why is Denmark raising the TV tax and hitting internet users and mobile phone users with it as well?
            For the record it's not really a tax (edit: and I'll have to check if there's actually a raise going on, other than the usual adjustment for inflation). Whatever it is, they're extending it to (some) internet and mobile phone users.

            Why? Because back in the day, somebody came up with the notion that if you own a TV, you have to pay for being able to watch national television (even if you don't). Now, that thought is obviously flawed, but if you do accept it, I agree it's reasonable to extend it to whatever device gives you the exact same opportunity.

            Another point is that national TV is supposed to be financed by its customers rather than benefit from an automatic hand-out that everybody will have to pay for. The way things are now, people like Winston can still choose to stay on the right side of the law and not finance an institution they don't use nor endorse.
            Last edited by Monk; January 3, 2007, 17:10.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Oerdin
              If they have such a surplus then why is Denmark raising the TV tax and hitting internet users and mobile phone users with it as well?
              It's not a tax as such, but more like a PPV where if you are able to see it, then you pay. As Monk says, it's more like an adoption to modern techniqe so if you have a high speed line and didn't have a tv before, then you have to pay too. Since it's only Winston's that are hit, then it isn't actually a great issue.
              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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              • #22
                Fees charged by the state are just taxes by another name.
                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                • #23
                  Kind of, but these doesn't pour into the gap of the state but to the organisation making the TV/radio, and no, they don't make any "profit" that is returned to the state.
                  With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BlackCat
                    Kind of, but these doesn't pour into the gap of the state but to the organisation making the TV/radio, and no, they don't make any "profit" that is returned to the state.
                    Exactly. Since both ways of taking my money do just that, take my money that is, I understand Oerdin's point. Fees and taxes do remain seperate things for several purposes though, and therein lies the reason why it's not so simple to include the media license in the ordinary tax system, nor get rid of it altogether due to the economy doing well.

                    Once again for the record, I do agree that a reform is in order, one that goes in the opposite way of the recent one.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Oerdin
                      Fees charged by the state are just taxes by another name.
                      So is inflation and debt.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                        So is inflation and debt.
                        Well, then our rightwing government must do something right since we have really low inflation, high employment and as the OP states, a surplus

                        * Ned cries since that isn't supposed to be possible
                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Eli
                          That money is always paying for something, whether it's the government who pays(no tax-cut) or the citizens(with a tax-cut).
                          That's not true. The government doesn't need to spend all the money it collects.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by dannubis
                            WTF is Alberta ?
                            Some hot chick, I hope
                            I need a foot massage

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                            • #29
                              It's a nasty cold place that sits on top of some tar sands.
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Brachy-Pride


                                Some hot chick, I hope
                                If I understand it right, then it's some indian girlie raped by canucks.
                                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                                Steven Weinberg

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