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  • #16
    Re: glad to hear

    Originally posted by pchang
    On the other hand, I thought the strolling hookers added a bit of charm to the after 9PM scene.
    If it makes you any better, we still have homeless people defecating in our public parks.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #17
      you just don't understand

      Originally posted by Zkribbler
      Penalty = spending the rest of your life in jail
      penalties of any sort don't really deter crimes because the vast majority of criminals don't think rationally about their crimes in the first place. Penalties don't deter if you don't think you will be caught or don't even consider the possibility you will be caught.
      “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

      ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man​

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      • #18
        Then why do Europe, Japan, Australia and New Zealand all have much lower murder rates than the U.S.?

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        • #19
          Let's not kid ourselves. DC is getting less violent primarially because of gentrification. The lower classes are being pushed out and replaced by lower and upper class aparment dwellers. Thus the drop in violent crime.

          BTW the rest of the country is experiencing a dramatic rise in crime due to a lack of economic progress for the lower 1/3 of society and due to Bush cancelling Clinton's highly secessful intiatives to put more cops on the streets. Clinton had the feds subsidize cities and counties so they could afford more cops. More cops= less crime. Bush cancelled this program which resulted in fewer cops on the street. Fewer cops=more crime in general. DC beat this trend by continuing the process of gentrification thus removing the biggest class of criminals; the lower classes.
          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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          • #20
            you cite

            places with lesser penalties to show that penalties are a deterrent? Those places have lower murder rates because they have a less violent society overall and strict gun control. However, as those societies have started to let immigration occur from more violent societies, their murder rates are increasing.
            Last edited by pchang; January 2, 2007, 00:55.
            “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

            ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man​

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            • #21
              Originally posted by DanS
              Baltimore's an interesting place. Increase the murder rate while mayor of the city, and get yourself promoted to the Maryland statehouse.
              Uhhh...no.

              The murder rate in Baltimore has declined ~10% since 1999 when O'Malley took over.
              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
              Stadtluft Macht Frei
              Killing it is the new killing it
              Ultima Ratio Regum

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              • #22
                Don't let

                a short term blip distract you from a longer term overall trend
                “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man​

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Asher
                  DC murders should include Iraqi civilians.
                  Well played, sir, well played. 8/10.
                  "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                  Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                  • #24
                    Indeed.
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                      Uhhh...no.

                      The murder rate in Baltimore has declined ~10% since 1999 when O'Malley took over.
                      But the STD rate has increased.

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                      • #26
                        If you feel bad about that, remember, Sao Paulo is much much worse
                        I need a foot massage

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Jaguar
                          Well played, sir, well played. 8/10.
                          But no one bit
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #28
                            True. But it was very creative.
                            "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                            Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                              The District recorded 167 killings -- a 15 percent drop from the 196 slayings in 2005


                              Pussies. Baltimore chugged along to an increase over 2005
                              They made you TA intro calculus, didn't they.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Jaguar
                                Well played, sir, well played. 8/10.
                                QFT.

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