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[Heresson]

Originally posted by Cort Haus

Yeah, and if the Catholic church hadn't helped Hitler to power in the first place

Indeed, they commited a mistake when hardly anyone was aware of the danger. Poland was, but it's another thing. However, the pope did condemn nazis etc in 1938

Or we could blame France for insisting on the punitive measures of Versailles

punitive? they were very lenient, if that's the correct word. Germany only lost Alsace and Lorraigne, most of Major Poland, and minor parts of Upper Silesia and Eastern Pommerania, and a couple of villages in Masuria. All but Alsace being majorly non-german and, except for Upper Silesia, recently conquered.

Judging by your posting history, I expect you blame the Joos for crippling Germany and creating Bolshevism blah blah.

huh?

A pre-emptive attack on Germany would, of course, have been as illegal in itself

every attack on Germany is legal and justified

[Datajack Franit]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Where does this figure come from?

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_en_France#La_population_musulmane_en_France

La population musulmane est maintenant estimée par le ministère de l'Intérieur entre 5 et 6 millions, au sein d'une population métropolitaine d'environ 63 millions d'habitants. 1,5 million d'entre eux seraient de nationalité française. Il ne s'agit cependant que d'une estimation, puisque le recensement des fidèles d'une religion est interdit par la loi française depuis une loi de 1872. Beaucoup de sociologues pensent que ce nombre ne reflète pas la réalité, et comptent plutôt une population de 8 millions de musulmans sur le territoire français (comparés aux 12 à 20 millions dans l'Union européenne).

I think that 1 million of illegal immigrants nationwide is a pretty solid hypothesis.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
I think that 1 million of illegal immigrants nationwide is a pretty solid hypothesis.

The estimates I heard are around 300k. And the source (the current anti-immigrant government) has no reason to deflate the figure, considering the candidate Sarkozy intends to gain points by putting the fight against immigration as one of the top issues.

BTW, a few weeks ago, I was taught by a guy who works for the interior ministry about Islam. The guy belonged to a committee set up by Sarkozy to inquire about the headscarf matter. I'll trust his figure of 7% of the French population being Muslim to be more accurate than wiki's, and than yours