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    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Iran is suffering a staggering decline in revenue from its oil exports, and if the trend continues income could disappear by 2015, a National Academy of Sciences analysis found.

    Iran's economic woes could make the country unstable and vulnerable, with its oil industry crippled, Roger Stern, an economic geographer at Johns Hopkins University, wrote in the report published Monday.

    Iran earns about $50 billion a year in oil exports.

    The decline is estimated at 10 to 12 percent annually.

    In less than five years exports could be halved, Stern predicted.

    For two decades, the United States has deployed military forces in the region in a strategy to pre-empt emergence of a regional superpower.

    Iraq was prevented from growing into a major power in the area in the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

    But a hostile Iran remains a target of U.S. threats.

    The U.S. military exercises have not stopped Iran's drive.

    But the report hostility to foreign investment wishing to develop new oil resources could destabilize Iran, Stern said.

    Stern's analysis, which appears in this week's edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, supports U.S. and European suspicions that Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons in violation of international understandings.

    But, Stern says, there could be merit to Iran's assertion that it needs nuclear power for civilian purposes "as badly as it claims."

    He said oil production is declining and both gas and oil are being sold domestically at highly subsidized rates.

    At the same time, Iran is neglecting to reinvest in its oil production.

    "With an explosive demand at home and poor management, the appeal of nuclear power, financed by Russia, could fill a real need for production of more electricity."

    Iran produces about 3.7 million barrels a day, about 300,000 barrels below the quota set for Iran by the oil cartel, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.

    The shortfall represents a loss of about $5.5 billion a year, Stern said.

    In 2004, Iran's oil profits were 65 percent of the government's revenues.

    "If we look at that shortfall, and failure to rectify leaks in their refineries, that adds up to a loss of about $10 billion to $11 billion a year," he said. "That is a picture of an industry in collapse."

    If the United States can "hold its breath" for a few years it may find Iran a much more conciliatory country, he said.

    And that, Stern said, is good reason to belay any instinct to take on Iran militarily.

    "What they are doing to themselves is much worse than anything we could do," he said.

    "The one thing that would unite the country right now is to bomb them," Stern said. "Here is one problem that might solve itself."


    I'd like to ignore the implied policy recommendations in the article and focus on the reasons behind the stagnating/declining production.

    What the **** is going on? Is it truly simply a case of loss of foreign investment? Why can't Iran manage to effectively exploit its reserves? What are they thinking, ****ing with something as important to their economy as the oil industry is? Does anybody have any insight on this? The article is sorely lacking in details on this aspect of the story.
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    In Iran the state owns all oil fields or at least I believe so. Therefor investment into the oil and gas fields is subject to political decisions and not subject to the economic necissities of extremely expensive reinvestment or modernization. I can easily see politicians wanting to spend state money on their pet projects (subsidies, road construction, or what ever) instead of investing in equipment modernization or new exploration. That's just the nature of having nationalized industries.
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    • #3
      This sounds interesting to me, but I dont know.
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      • #4
        The more likely scenerio is that as soon as the falling output begins to seriously effect state revenues (which have likely been even since prices have spiked in recent years) then the government will cut other spending and up the amount spent on modernization and exploration.

        A better solution is to depoliticize the process and privatize most of it.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Oerdin
          In Iran the state owns all oil fields or at least I believe so. Therefor investment into the oil and gas fields is subject to political decisions and not subject to the economic necissities of extremely expensive reinvestment or modernization. I can easily see politicians wanting to spend state money on their pet projects (subsidies, road construction, or what ever) instead of investing in equipment modernization or new exploration. That's just the nature of having nationalized industries.
          Not really.

          If it's simply a matter of a failure to invest in such an obviously profitable business then this is one of the more egregious examples of an inefficient government industry around.

          Amtrak doesn't have anything on that...
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          • #6
            Venezuela has the same problem. The government has big spending plans and needs money for those plans so they short change the golden goose, spend the money on other things, then wonder why their golden goose isn't looking so rosie.
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            • #7
              Maybe it's just my experience coming from a first world country where governments tend to be pretty good, but I just can't fathom that ****.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                Maybe it's just my experience coming from a first world country where governments tend to be pretty good, but I just can't fathom that ****.

                Theyre failing to invest in a profitable industry. Either they are investing in unprofitable industries, or they are under-investing overall. Surely youve heard of first world countries that over focused on consumption and neglected investment overall - Im thinking of a hyper capitalist economy And also some first world economies that have attempted to maintain employment levels (a key issue in Iran with a rapidly growing labor force in the riot prone age range) by targeting investment on social rather than economic bases (im thinking of some NOT hyper capitalist economies)

                Your Iran. Youve got a fundie govt that had legitimacy cause of da Shah, whos forgotten now. Then a war with Iraq, thats long over. Youve got a small minority that bitterly hates the regime for ideological reasons. Youve got a whole buncha minorities that are vaguely discontented. Youve got a lot more people who are vaguely displeased with the regime, but will still vote in its elections, and remain compliant, but are grumbling quietly. Youve got to get legitimacy from them. You cant do it by liberalizing beyond a limited degree ("we'll let you wear skirts an inch shorter than we used to, and we'll look the other way when you drink whiskey in North Teheran") which will alienate some of the key props of the regime. So you want to keep up consumption, keep down unemployment, and keep up an adventurous foreign policy that maintains a nationalist sense of legitimacy. All of which cost money - the consumption, obviously, and the investment in labor intensive industries. And the money for Hamas and Hezbollah and other for policy expenditures. Plus you want to keep up social programs, esp those will help reduce the birth rate, to lessen that dreadful problem of youth unemployment. Oil and gas? Well who knows, the future will take care of itself, right now the money is flowing in, and at some point the foreign investors will come beating down your door, cause the world needs your oil so bad. Meanwhile youve got more urgent issues.
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                • #9
                  While I can understand Teheran being averse to Western FDI, I can't imagine why they don't welcome Russian and especially Chinese investment in exploration and development in exchange for preferential contracts. Does anyone know the rationale for turning them down?
                  Unbelievable!

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                  • #10
                    I am hoping this will happen, it would solve a lot of problem that most of the world has with Iran.
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                    • #11
                      The conclusions of this analysis don't make much sense to me. Iran's (declining) oil industry is pretty much beside the point of the nuke question. Rather, it's Iran's natural gas fields on which the writer should have focused.

                      Iran has enormous natural gas reserves (#2 in the world). Natural gas is good for powering electricity generating turbines. Over the last several years, the U.S. has been adding natural gas turbines to its capacity hand-over-fist -- for us it is the cheapest method, and we have the #7 gas reserves. So we know full well that the nuke electricity issue for Iran is totally bogus.
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                      • #12
                        To be clear, Iran's oil production is expected to decline, with or without overseas and/or private investment.
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                        • #13
                          Lack of foreign investment? Unpossible!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DanS
                            To be clear, Iran's oil production is expected to decline, with or without overseas and/or private investment.
                            Why? The only way this would make sense is if Iranian reserves are literally drying up, which is nonsense.
                            Unbelievable!

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                            • #15
                              Good question. I probably should have said oil exports are expected to decline (rather than production is expected to decline), but looking at Iran's reserve figures, there's little inherent reason why they couldn't increase production to offset increased domestic use.

                              In any event, this has nothing at all to do with electricity generation and the nuke question.
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