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  • #16
    Originally posted by LordShiva


    Because software and driver support will be an issue for the near future, and because the 64-bit version doesn't yield a performance advantage unless you have >4GB of RAM.
    What crap is that? On Linux, I've been using the 64-bit version since I got a 64-bit processor, and there's some performance increase in everyday stuff. Of course, it helps that all software except Skype is also 64-bit compiled.
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    • #17
      emerge --sync && emerge --update world to bring yourself to the bleeding edge

      Originally posted by Solver
      What crap is that? On Linux, I've been using the 64-bit version since I got a 64-bit processor, and there's some performance increase in everyday stuff. Of course, it helps that all software except Skype is also 64-bit compiled.
      Eight new general-purpose registers, red zone, argument passing in registers, etc
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
        emerge --sync && emerge --update world to bring yourself to the bleeding edge
        apt-get update && apt-get upgrade for me.

        But sincerely - is it worth it, being on the cutting edge?

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        • #19
          Certainly not by itself. Being cutting-edge is worth if you need it, not if you don't.

          apt-get upgrade though
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Solver


            What crap is that? On Linux, I've been using the 64-bit version since I got a 64-bit processor, and there's some performance increase in everyday stuff. Of course, it helps that all software except Skype is also 64-bit compiled.
            Even I've been running Linux 64-bit for quite some time (but it still doesn't have a decent flash player ), and I've faced no driver issues. But Windows Vista does have driver problems with 64 bit, last I heard.

            Can anyone tell me any way to get flash working on a natively 64 bit Linux system (WITHOUT a chroot)?

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            • #21
              Microsoft has been working on this operating system for five years or so; what's it actually supposed to do? What are its "killer features," so to speak? Or at least, what are its advertised killer features?
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              • #22
                Flash works just fine for me, although I believe I am using the 32 bit version of it. Maybe. Don't remember really.

                The biggest killer feature of Vista was cut. Monad, their new command-line interface. That, coupled with WinFS, had me hoping that Vista could be a good OS. Both these features were cut, however, so I have no interest in using Vista whatsoever. Besides, I prefer an OS that doesn't have ridiculous memory requirements.
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                • #23
                  Being bleeding edge
                  He uses Linux, he already is. I've heard of a Distro called LinuxMint which is supposed to offer a lot of the media Codexs that most distros lack, such as flash.
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                  • #24
                    See, I like performance... each uncessary upgrade bloats my software.
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                    • #25
                      Anyone from the pro Vista side?

                      ...

                      Is there a pro Vista side?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Solver
                        The biggest killer feature of Vista was cut. Monad, their new command-line interface.
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                        AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                        DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                        • #27
                          Yes I know it's a standalone product now. Doesn't help my faith in Vista though. I became anti-Vista when they cut it, a thing like that should be in the OS, not standalone.

                          Though I am happy it exists at all...
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]


                            He uses Linux, he already is. I've heard of a Distro called LinuxMint which is supposed to offer a lot of the media Codexs that most distros lack, such as flash.
                            It's a Ubuntu variant, but I don't think it has Flash for 64-bit.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by aneeshm

                              And what will be the cost of Vista when it comes out? That's my biggest problem, actually. It'll be something like 5,000 Rupees, which is way too expensive for an OS.
                              If you need more rupees you can always break some pots or cut down some tall grass to find more

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                              • #30
                                First off I already started a Vista thread here:


                                Asher made some good points in support of Vista, and I agree. Vista is a lot better then XP, and I would tell everyone I know to upgrade to it. aneeshm your computer system requirements are more then enough for Vista.
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