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    Ah, nice to know this kind of doofus gets elected to Congress. The sad reality being though I am sure there are a few Poly posters who would agree with this douche:




    Congressman Criticizes Election of Muslim
    By RACHEL L. SWARNS
    Published: December 21, 2006

    WASHINGTON, Dec. 20 — In a letter sent to hundreds of voters this month, Representative Virgil H. Goode Jr., Republican of Virginia, warned that the recent election of the first Muslim to Congress posed a serious threat to the nation’s traditional values.

    Mr. Goode was referring to Keith Ellison, the Minnesota Democrat and criminal defense lawyer who converted to Islam as a college student and was elected to the House in November. Mr. Ellison’s plan to use the Koran during his private swearing-in ceremony in January had outraged some Virginia voters, prompting Mr. Goode to issue a written response to them, a spokesman for Mr. Goode said.

    In his letter, which was dated Dec. 5, Mr. Goode said that Americans needed to “wake up” or else there would “likely be many more Muslims elected to office and demanding the use of the Koran.”

    “I fear that in the next century we will have many more Muslims in the United States if we do not adopt the strict immigration policies that I believe are necessary to preserve the values and beliefs traditional to the United States of America and to prevent our resources from being swamped,” said Mr. Goode, who vowed to use the Bible when taking his own oath of office.

    Mr. Goode declined Wednesday to comment on his letter, which quickly stirred a furor among some Congressional Democrats and Muslim Americans, who accused him of bigotry and intolerance.

    They noted that the Constitution specifically bars any religious screening of members of Congress and that the actual swearing in of those lawmakers occurs without any religious texts. The use of the Bible or Koran occurs only in private ceremonial events that take place after lawmakers have officially sworn to uphold the Constitution.

    Mr. Ellison dismissed Mr. Goode’s comments, saying they seemed ill informed about his personal origins as well as about Constitutional protections of religious freedom. “I’m not an immigrant,” added Mr. Ellison, who traces his American ancestors back to 1742. “I’m an African-American.”

    Since the November election, Mr. Ellison said, he has received hostile phone calls and e-mail messages along with some death threats. But in an interview on Wednesday, he emphasized that members of Congress and ordinary citizens had been overwhelmingly supportive and said he was focusing on setting up his Congressional office, getting phone lines hooked up and staff members hired, not on negative comments.

    “I’m not a religious scholar, I’m a politician, and I do what politicians do, which is hopefully pass legislation to help the nation,” said Mr. Ellison, who said he planned to focus on secular issues like increasing the federal minimum wage and getting health insurance for the uninsured.

    “I’m looking forward to making friends with Representative Goode, or at least getting to know him,” Mr. Ellison said, speaking by telephone from Minneapolis. “I want to let him know that there’s nothing to fear. The fact that there are many different faiths, many different colors and many different cultures in America is a great strength.”

    In Washington, Brendan Daly, a spokesman for the incoming House speaker, Nancy Pelosi of California, called Mr. Goode’s letter “offensive.” Corey Saylor, legislative director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, criticized what he described as Mr. Goode’s “message of intolerance.”

    Representative Bill Pascrell Jr., Democrat of New Jersey, urged Mr. Goode to reach out to Muslims in Virginia and learn “to dispel misconceptions instead of promoting them.”

    “Keith Ellison serves as a great example of Muslim Americans in our nation, and he does not have to answer to you, to me or anyone else in regards to questions about his faith,” said Mr. Pascrell, whose district includes many Arab-Americans.

    The fracas over Mr. Ellison’s decision to use the Koran during his personal swearing-in ceremony began last month when Dennis Prager, a conservative columnist and radio host, condemned the decision as one that would undermine American civilization.

    “Ellison’s doing so will embolden Islamic extremists and make new ones, as Islamists, rightly or wrongly, see the first sign of the realization of their greatest goal — the Islamicization of America,” said Mr. Prager, who said the Bible was the only relevant religious text in the United States.

    “If you are incapable of taking an oath on that book, don’t serve in Congress,” Mr. Prager said.

    In his letter, Mr. Goode echoed that view, saying that he did not “subscribe to using the Koran in any way.” He also called for ending illegal immigration and reducing legal immigration.

    Linwood Duncan, a spokesman for Mr. Goode, said the Virginia lawmaker had no intention of backing down, despite the furor.

    “He stands by the letter,” Mr. Duncan said. “He has no intention of apologizing.”
    If you don't like reality, change it! me
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  • #2
    That damn freedom of religion sure is pesky! Maybe we should rid ourselves of that.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #3


      Virginia politicians seem to have a Macaca problem.
      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
      -Bokonon

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      • #4
        Sometimes Wikipedia goes too far...anyways, their immense article on the column that began this "controversy"



        I like this Gem:

        The American Family Association reprinted the Prager article on their website and linked it to an email generator and sent out an "action alert" to its 3.4 million members urging readers and members to send an “email asking your U.S. Congressional leaders to pass a law making the Bible the book used in the swearing-in ceremony of Representatives and Senators.”[29][67]

        AFA President Tim Wildmon said “Swearing in officeholders on Islam's holy book ‘represents a change in our society, our culture, if we hold up the Quran as equivalent to the Holy Bible. If calling the Bible superior to the Quran in American tradition and culture is intolerant, then I'm guilty.’"


        Of course, According to Article VI, section 3 of our Constitution:
        "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States"


        Hmmm, so the American family Council is asking for the passage of an unconstitutional law... no suprise there.
        If you don't like reality, change it! me
        "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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        • #5
          Yay Virgil Goode. Though I have to say, I spent all summer and some of the fall working for his opponent (disappointingly named Al Weed), so I can't say that I'm totally surprised at this. What is surprising is the poor grammar. I mean, you'd think he could hire staff that are at least slightly competant.
          "Remember, there's good stuff in American culture, too. It's just that by "good stuff" we mean "attacking the French," and Germany's been doing that for ages now, so, well, where does that leave us?" - Elok

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          • #6
            Hell will freeze over before I ever vote for Bible-thumping right-wingers like Virgil Goode.
            "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

            "Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart." — Confucius

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            • #7
              I'm just shocked it's taken this long for a muslim to be elected to the House of Representatives...
              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
              Stadtluft Macht Frei
              Killing it is the new killing it
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              • #8
                It's political correctness gone mad!

                Now the first SCIENTOLOGIST elected to Congress, now that's progress

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GePap


                  Of course, According to Article VI, section 3 of our Constitution:
                  "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States"
                  "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
                  "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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                  • #10
                    This politician sounds exactly like the type of person,
                    who would support Ku Klux Klan or the Nazis if it were political correct
                    (especially if these groups would be for a country that is not (only) pure by race, but also pure by religion )
                    Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
                    Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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