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  • #31
    My parents are Muslim, I'm already suspect .
    Only suspect?? I figured, you'd have been arrested and imprisoned by now. Those guys down in Homeland Security are really falling down on the job. They must have heard that Hurricane Katrina is approaching New Orleans are they are currently racing to the rescue.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by chegitz guevara
      So, do you think we should have free trade with China, who overvalues their currency by 40%? Do you think that goods produced by slave or child labor should be allowed to be sold in the US? What about products that are produced in ways that are environmentally abhorrent to us?
      Yes yes yes.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Oerdin
        Still no source for the OP? Dan, are you quoting rightwing news sites again?
        Oerdin, you've long since become a parody of yourself. I sourced the article to the WSJ, Page 1, December 19. FYI, the WSJ is the 2nd largest newspaper in the US.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
          It looks like Odin isn't interested in staying the majority party .
          Looks like Imran dosn't understand the growing populist backlash against Neo-Liberalism that was important in this election... *cough* Jon Tester *cough*

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          • #35
            Originally posted by DanS

            FYI, the WSJ is the 2nd largest newspaper in the US.
            And very biased towards the ideology of the Transnational corporate elitles who worship the God of Neo-Liberalism.

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            • #36
              Go back to your corner.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Odin
                And very biased towards the ideology of the Transnational corporate elitles who worship the God of Neo-Liberalism.
                Not Neo-Liberalism but rather Paleo-Plutocracy.

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                • #38
                  From the article in the OP:

                  "inflation-adjusted wages haven't risen much, if at all, for many Americans in the middle, employers have been trimming health and retirement benefits, and anxiety about outsourcing has spread from blue-collar factory workers to their white-collar counterparts."


                  Who is surprised to hear that employees are often screwed over? Wages that no longer keep pace with cost of living, outsourcing jobs, anal retentive policies of employers concerning job benefits . . . . .
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • #39
                    [q=Odin]Looks like Imran dosn't understand the growing populist backlash against Neo-Liberalism that was important in this election[/q]

                    I'm absolutely shocked that you thought that populism against neo-liberal economic policies was important in this election. You've amazingly deluded yourself into thinking that it was economics really was a driving issue in the last election.
                    Last edited by Imran Siddiqui; December 19, 2006, 23:15.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #40
                      I thought Odin was a socialist, not a liberal weenie.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #41
                        Just being a republican does not make someone a free trader - look at Pat Buchanan.
                        If you don't like reality, change it! me
                        "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                        • #42
                          He last ran as a reform candidate though.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                            [q=Odin]Looks like Imran dosn't understand the growing populist backlash against Neo-Liberalism that was important in this election[/q]

                            I'm absolutely shocked that you thought that populism against neo-liberal economic policies was important in this election. You've amazingly deluded yourself into thinking that it was economics really was a driving issue in the last election.
                            Yup in fact it was a combination of dissatisfaction in foreign policy execution vis-avis- Iraq, the accepatance of the meme of culture of corruption, as well as smoldering resentment of the base of abandonment of fiscal restraint that led to the results we see.

                            No real meaningful message of economics was ever entered into the public debate primarily because the Dems didn't present one. They had enough ammo with the attack the Repugs strategy they never had to flesh out or defend an agenda for themselves.
                            "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                            “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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