Americans Disappear and Torture American Contractor

[chequita guevara]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/world/middleeast/18justice.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5094&en=75f8d6f0ce303868&hp&ex=1166504400&partner=homepage

The detainee was Donald Vance, a 29-year-old Navy veteran from Chicago who went to Iraq as a security contractor. He wound up as a whistle-blower, passing information to the F.B.I. about suspicious activities at the Iraqi security firm where he worked, including what he said was possible illegal weapons trading.

But when American soldiers raided the company at his urging, Mr. Vance and another American who worked there were detained as suspects by the military, which was unaware that Mr. Vance was an informer, according to officials and military documents.

It can't happen to an American, huh?

[chequita guevara]

Meanwhile, Jose Padilla has been tortured so badly he can no longer contribute to his own defense.

[SlowwHand]

So says his defense, as one would expect.
One should also suspect that anyone comtemplating suicide bombing is mentally defective anyway.

[chequita guevara]

No one ever said Padilla was a suicide bomber, Nazi-boy.

[MichaeltheGreat]

No, just a gang-banging moron who thought it might be cool to see if he could get a mission to play with a dirty bomb. Apparently, AQ decided he was a flake too.

Padilla is entitled to a fair trial and a fair hanging, in the immortal words of Judge Roy Bean. He should not have been detained without trial outside the judicial system, but the only entity worth sympathy in that case was the Constitution, not Padilla.

[SlowwHand]

Nazi-boy? That's a new one.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Meanwhile, Jose Padilla has been tortured so badly he can no longer contribute to his own defense.

Unless he is dead, this doesn't make sense.

[SlowwHand]

He's been called a madman by his legal defense.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
He's been called a madman by his legal defense.

Still confused - took the time to read Che's link (wich I didn't in the first place), and can't find such. Are you referring to other sources ?

[SlowwHand]

His 2nd post.

"Meanwhile, Jose Padilla has been tortured so badly he can no longer contribute to his own defense."

The first is a little better. Some facts, at least.
Thing is, Che repeats only the part that seems to substantiate his view. Taken out of context.

In the 2nd, he only offers opinion.

[chequita guevara]

The Padilla stuff you can look up on your own. I'm disturbed that no one seems at all bothered by the Military grabbing a couple of Americans who were the people who had told them there was a problem in the first place, and then held them incommunicado and psychologically tortured them.

[Jon Miller]

Oh, I am very bothered. This is what I predicted.

I don't know whether I would be safe in Canada.

JM

[Zkribbler]

Hmmm, so you want to consort with known foreigners, huh?!