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Originally posted by Ramo
Again, please read a book on calculus for elucidation.
Again, please read a book on calculus for elucidation.
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No. Its much easier to ask professionals like you.
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Is it ever useful to represent 1 as .9999 repeating?Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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Ok....let me explain it in another way. Why does a calculator give you a result of 0.9999999 repeating if it equals 1?Originally posted by loinburger
You seem to be arguing that it's wrong to have two (or more) equivalent representations of the same quanitity.
"I have fifty cents."
"WHY DON'T YOU JUST SAY YOU HAVE HALF A DOLLAR YOU STUPID JERK???"
Might sound like a stupid question though. But its not surprising coming from me so...
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It would be somuch easier though.Originally posted by Lorizael
Is it ever useful to represent 1 as .9999 repeating?
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Because no calculator can handle infinite digits. When you divide 1 by 3, you don't get 1/3, but .333 cut off at some point. When you multiply that by 3, you get .999 cut off at some point."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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So 1 would be better no?Originally posted by Ramo
Because no calculator can handle infinite digits.
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I have never seen such a band of geeks in all my life.
Who the **** cares? Point out something that's .9999999999999999999999999 of anything.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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Because calculators use finite-precision arithmetic. If you used a fancy-pants program like Mathematica then you'd probably get an answer of 1 instead of .9-to-however-many-digits-the-hardware-can-support. Most calculators don't have the memory/hardware necessary to make the conversion, though.Originally posted by Spec
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Better for what?So 1 would be better no?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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You're expecting herculean efforts out of the hardware for a cheap calculator.Originally posted by Spec
So 1 would be better no?
When I enter 1/3, the calculator stores the answer in a fixed number of bits (say, 32 bits). This means that the answer stored in the calculator is not .3-repeating, but is instead .3-repeating carried out to 32 bits of precision. Then when I multiply this answer by 3, I get .9-repeating carried out to 32 bits of precision. Yes, it would be better if the calculator had infinite precision and computed an answer of 1. However, a run-of-the-mill calculator doesn't have the hardware capabilities to do this, so you get an imprecise result when you calculate (1 / 3) * 3<p style="font-size:1024px">HTML is disabled in signatures </p>Comment
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Go away Texan.Originally posted by SlowwHand
I have never seen such a band of geeks in all my life.
Who the **** cares? Point out something that's .9999999999999999999999999 of anything.
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I tried something.
I used the claculator from windows and divided 1 by 3 and got .3333 repeating. Then multiplied it by 3 and got 1.
So yea, .9 repeating equals 1.
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But, if you put it on a graph, and make a ''timeline'', they never touch eachother. So, now I am undecided
What the **** are you talking about?
0.9999.... is a number, not a function. It doesn't "change". It doesn't "approach" anything.
It has a unique value. It's either equal to 1 or it's not. If it's not equal to 1 then it's some distance > 0 from 1.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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I know. I make too much sense.
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Only from you should I have expected such an answer with the traditionnal KH Iknow it all WTF!!! answer.Originally posted by KrazyHorse
But, if you put it on a graph, and make a ''timeline'', they never touch eachother. So, now I am undecided
What the **** are you talking about?
0.9999.... is a number, not a function. It doesn't "change". It doesn't "approach" anything.
It has a unique value. It's either equal to 1 or it's not. If it's not equal to 1 then it's some distance > 0 from 1.
Sorry if I dont know everything you know...
I'll watch you put a turbo on a car and instead of showing you how so you learn, I'll just say, WTF YOU DUMBASS!! THATS NOT HOW ITS DONE!!!
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