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  • #16
    Originally posted by lord of the mark


    If youre trying to tempt me to say something racist, its not gonna work
    sorry, I just thought you might have more insight about the area.

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    • #17
      I doubt this will have any effect on the general population that currently votes for them. *sigh*
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
      RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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      • #18
        Hamas is a terrorist organization. Of course they kill children just like they kill everyone else.
        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Geronimo

          sorry, I just thought you might have more insight about the area.
          I dont think its really about elections at this point, at least not anything like free ones. Either Fatah rules, and they will get the electoral results they want, or Hamas rules, and they will get the electoral results they want. Its a battle for power.
          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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          • #20
            I wonder if people there would start behaving better if we stopped calling it the Holy Land and started calling it the Realm of Satan? This latter term is a much better description.

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            • #21
              This from someone with the flag of the Great Satan.
              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
              "Capitalism ho!"

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              • #22


                Hamas gunmen open fire on Fatah protest 2 hours, 52 minutes ago

                KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip - Hamas gunmen fired on demonstrators from the rival Fatah movement on Tuesday, wounding four people and intensifying fears of a new wave of Palestinian infighting following the deaths of three children in a drive-by shooting, officials said.


                The demonstration was organized to protest the deaths of the children, whose car was riddled with bullets as they were driven to school Monday morning. Fatah officials have accused Hamas of being behind the shooting. The children's father is an intelligence officer who is considered an enemy of Hamas.

                Saleh Hammad, a local Fatah leader, said the demonstration was peaceful, though he acknowledged that some children had provoked the Hamas militiamen by throwing rocks at them.

                "Even if one or a few children lost their temper and stoned the members of the unit, this is not a reason to be fired at," he said.

                Islami Shawan, a spokesman for the Hamas security unit in the area, denied his men had fired on protesters.

                "Our personnel didn't fire at any demonstrations in Khan Younis. Our personnel were attacked by shooting and stones," Shawan said.


                Hospital officials confirmed four people were wounded. The demonstration quickly dispersed, and there were no further signs of fighting.

                The factional violence was the first since Monday's shooting, which increased fears of an explosion of violence between Fatah and Hamas.

                Gaza has been plagued by escalating lawlessness and sporadic street battles between the factions since Hamas defeated Fatah in January parliamentary elections. The tensions increased over the weekend, after Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas threatened to call new elections.

                On Tuesday, a top aide to Abbas said the president will announce his intention to hold an early vote in a major speech on Saturday. But Abbas is not expected to announce a date for the election, giving negotiators more time to reach a deal with Hamas.

                Abbas has been trying to form a coalition with Hamas in hopes of ending international sanctions against the current Hamas-led government. Western donors cut off hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to the government after Hamas took power, demanding the Islamic group renounce violence and recognize Israel's right to exist.

                Hamas, which is committed to Israel's destruction, has rejected the international conditions. The sanctions have caused widespread hardship throughout the West Bank and Gaza
                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                • #23
                  I hate when innocents get killed and it somehow seems just SO much worse when they are intentionally targetted.

                  Overall I would much prefer that the lawless thugs or terrorists or whatever are shooting at each other
                  You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DaShi
                    This from someone with the flag of the Great Satan.
                    Don't call us the next time you're in need.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by lord of the mark
                      Im not shocked at all. Why would anyone think that Hamas (assuming, as seems likely, that it was them) would be willing to murder Israeli children, and then would shrink from the murder of Palestinian children? This isnt about the general evil in the world, or anything so vague as that. Its about the repeated assertion that terror is "only a tactic", "no different from mechanized warfare" "the tool of the weak", the legitimization of it for political aims. Well, destroying the Fatah organization that has fought and
                      "oppressed" Hamas, is just as much essential to Hamas aims as blowing up pizza parlors in Tel Aviv to stop the "occupation".
                      In addition to direct attacks on their domestic opponents, Hamas also uses their opponents' homes to launch their rockets, so that the retaliation hits the people who stand up and try to stop the violence.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by lord of the mark
                        The Crips dont hold cabinet positions.
                        Does that change what Hamas is acting like?
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by lord of the mark

                          I eagerly await Hamas' statement.
                          I eagerly await the UN/EU condemnation of the killing of children.
                          "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                          "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Wezil


                            I eagerly await the UN/EU condemnation of the killing of children.
                            Apparently Hamas has denied involvement, and IS launching an investigation. I eagerly await the results of the investigation. I wonder if Abbas will launch his own investigation?


                            I also wonder if some key witnesses will find their way to Damascus.
                            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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