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  • Originally posted by senowen


    True. But, trying to justify a law that is obviously based on a moral/societal taboo on other grounds is often difficult.
    Yeah. But a moral is more than merely saying "xxx is wrong." There has to be a justification of it of some sort.
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    • Murder and theft laws are based on morals.
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      • All law is based upon codification of morals.
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        • Originally posted by Bill3000


          Yeah. But a moral is more than merely saying "xxx is wrong." There has to be a justification of it of some sort.
          I'm pretty sure I know what the Bible thumpers moral justification is:

          "Also you shall not have intercourse with any animal to be defiled with it, nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion." - Leviticus 18:23

          [edit] http://www.thebricktestament.com/the.../lv18_23a.html
          Last edited by senowen; December 6, 2006, 11:18.
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          • Originally posted by SlowwHand
            Murder and theft laws are based on morals.
            Uh-huh...

            Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
            All law is based upon codification of morals.
            I would love to get into a philosophical discussion of the difference between law and morals but I'm just not up to it today. All you should know is that this statement is overly simplified. Let's put it this way, morals are a judgment concerning what is right and wrong; while law often is a similar judgment, many laws are based on utilitarian judgments concerning what is best for most people.

            [edit] oops I put the above link in the wrong message
            Last edited by senowen; December 6, 2006, 11:19.
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            • There ya go.
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              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • Before latex was invented, condoms were made of mutton intestines. Wouldn't that raise a similar issue?
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                • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


                  Do they teach biology in your country? Rigor mortis would not stiffen the penis since penile erection is produced by engorgement of highly vascular tissue inside the penis with blood. Since dead animals by their very nature have zero blod pressure their penises are quite flaccid even during rigor mortis. There isn't much muscular tissue aroud the vagina either, so the primary effect of rigor mortis on the 'appeal' of the dead female animal would be to stiffen the muscles of the legs and buttocks.
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                  • Originally posted by senowen

                    Let's put it this way, morals are a judgment concerning what is right and wrong; while law often is a similar judgment, many laws are based on utilitarian judgments concerning what is best for most people.
                    And that in of itself is a moral judgment.
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                    • Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
                      Before latex was invented, condoms were made of mutton intestines. Wouldn't that raise a similar issue?
                      Not especially. Presumptively they didn't just rip the colon out of a fresh-killed sheep and slip it on, but let it dry out or something first. Bit different from humping an unsanitized carcass.

                      WRT E. coli, I wasn't aware that E. coli was transmissible by any means but ingestion--ergo, a man who ate contaminated meat would not spread the infection to people who merely came into contact with him. If there is only a minimal risk of picking up such pathogens from zoonecrophilia, as Doc suggested, that's another story. I'd still say no, just out of unjustified revulsion, but I'd admit I had no solid grounds.
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                      • If you have any form of sex in public I can see there being public indecency charges.

                        But other than the "ewwww" factor how is having sex with a carcass that much different than self pleasuring with a leather glove or wool mitten or having sex on that bearskin rug?

                        Is there some prescribed period an animal must be dead before its legal or is it that the dead animal must be processed by third parties into some product before it beomes "ok"
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                        • Suppose this guy had shagged a dead juvenile goat? Would the title of this thread have been: "Sex With Dead Kid is NOT Pedophilia?"

                          Should this man be barred from employment in the meat industry?
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                          • Originally posted by senowen


                            I'm pretty sure I know what the Bible thumpers moral justification is:

                            "Also you shall not have intercourse with any animal to be defiled with it, nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion." - Leviticus 18:23

                            [edit] http://www.thebricktestament.com/the.../lv18_23a.html
                            Divine command theory is quite philosophically weak.
                            "Compromises are not always good things. If one guy wants to drill a five-inch hole in the bottom of your life boat, and the other person doesn't, a compromise of a two-inch hole is still stupid." - chegitz guevara
                            "Bill3000: The United Demesos? Boy, I was young and stupid back then.
                            Jasonian22: Bill, you are STILL young and stupid."

                            "is it normal to imaginne dartrh vader and myself in a tjhreee way with some hot chick? i'ts always been my fantasy" - Dis

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                            • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
                              I honestly can't think of one you'd likely contract except possibly Campylobacter.
                              How about anthrax?

                              O - K, now we're talking about homo- pedo- zoo- necro- philia.

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                              • Originally posted by Lorizael
                                Apolyton really needs its Babe threads back.
                                Oh la cochonne!!

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