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    I posted this mostly because of Lancer's family's trials and tribulations of late.


    02:57 PM CST on Saturday, December 2, 2006

    Associated Press


    DOHA, Qatar - When Salim Al-Nabit and his friends went to see beach volleyball for the first time, they left their wives home.

    Al-Nabit said he would watch the bikini-clad women, but he certainly wouldn't want his wife to do so. He was there, he added, because it was a matter of national honor.
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    ok.

    "We don't see this a lot in Qatar," Al-Nabit said. "I think most people think it is outrageous. But we accept it because it is important for our country. We want others to see us as a generous and hospitable people, willing to accept their ways, even if we don't agree."

    Beach volleyball's penchant for bikinis has touched off a bit of a cultural clash in this conservative Muslim city, which by hosting the Asian Games, a regional sports extravaganza, is trying to bolster its bid to bring the 2016 Summer Olympics to the Middle East.

    The city has transformed itself in an effort to woo the Olympics. It has spent billions on infrastructure and sparkling new sports facilities, including the 50,000-seat "Aspire" stadium.

    Doha organizers brought in 80 truckloads of sand from dunes in the desert outside the city to create the proper beach setting for the volleyball competition. They then even had the sand tested by a Canadian contractor to make sure it was just right.

    But some things are just too much to ask.

    Though 16 Muslim nations are represented at the Asian Games, only one, Iraq, is competing in women's beach volleyball. And its team, sisters Lisa and Lida Agasi, are Christians.

    Do they feel uncomfortable?

    "No, not at all," Lida said after her first game on Saturday. But their coach noted they seemed a bit overwhelmed because "all eyes were upon them."

    Even so, the Iraqis wore considerably more conservative outfits than their opponents, the Japanese. While the Agasis were clad in yellow, two-piece tights that went down to mid thigh and covered most of their shoulders, the Japanese pair's uniforms were so small that the country name had to be abbreviated on their bikini bottoms.

    The Qatari women are sitting out the event, though Qatar has teams for everything from archery to skeet shooting.

    "It's not good," said Parvana Khoory, who watched from the almost-empty stands around the 1,500-seat center court dressed in black from head to toe. "We want a woman to cover all of her body. I think this discourages Muslim women from playing this sport."

    Some of the players agree that the outfits don't need to be as brief.

    "I felt kind of funny about it at first," said Japan's Satoko Urata. "But what can you do? It doesn't bother me now. They have uniforms like this in swimming and track, too."

    That has been a sticking point with Muslim athletes as well. Few Muslim teams At the Asian Games include female swimmers. Of those that do, some, like Pakistan, prefer its women wear full-body swimsuits.

    Beach volleyball has strict rules dictating what constitutes proper attire. Women can wear one- or two-piece uniforms, and that usually means they play in bikinis and sunglasses.

    Competition manager Ramon Suzara, an official with the Asian Beach Volleyball Association, said that allowances have been made for Muslims.

    "They can wear what they want, so long as it is appropriate," he said.

    Suzara added, however, that he hopes Muslims will come to accept the same kind of outfits that the athletes of other nations wear.

    "This is sport in the 21st century," he said. "I think this will be an eye-opener for Doha."

    It was for Al-Nabit, who confessed that, in the end, he enjoyed watching the competition.

    "But I felt very shy about it," he said.


    AP
    A Qatari man watches a beach volleyball match between Japan and Iraq during the 15th Asian Games in Doha, Qatar .
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    Re: Culture clash: Beach volleyball in Muslim world

    the Japanese pair's uniforms were so small that the country name had to be abbreviated on their bikini bottoms.
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    • #3
      Laugh all you want, but Qatar's women are unbeatable at poker. What makes me curious, though, is that the guy left his wife at home. He doesn't sound like he just doesn't want her to catch him gawking; it's more like it's unsuitable for her eyes or something. Does he not want her getting dangerous ideas, or is he afraid she'll, ah, "switch teams?"

      EDIT: Ha! I went to look for the original article by googling "Doha beach volleyball" (sans quotes). It asked me if I meant "DOA beach volleyball." I wonder if they'll try to capitalize on the similarity...
      Last edited by Elok; December 2, 2006, 19:49.
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      • #4
        "Honey, I'm going to watch babe volleyball for my country today. I'll probably be back."
        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #5
          You've got to wonder how much of the world's fundamentalism and general craziness is due to bad/no sex...
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bosh
            You've got to wonder how much of the world's fundamentalism and general craziness is due to bad/no sex...
            Quite a lot, I expect.

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            • #7
              They could censor it for Qatar TV...
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              • #8
                "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                Middle East!

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                • #9
                  Qatar's a pretty wealthy country, innit? They could afford a more elaborate digitally-superimposed burqa.
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                  • #10
                    Speaking strictly as a volleyball fanatic and a father of two girls who play volleyball, I think the bikinis are stupid and demean the game. I note that the men dont play in speedos, they play in shorts and T-shirt.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SpencerH
                      Speaking strictly as a volleyball fanatic and a father of two girls who play volleyball, I think the bikinis are stupid and demean the game. I note that the men dont play in speedos, they play in shorts and T-shirt.
                      One of the few times I'm fully in agreement with SpencerH.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SpencerH
                        Speaking strictly as a volleyball fanatic and a father of two girls who play volleyball, I think the bikinis are stupid and demean the game. I note that the men dont play in speedos
                        well, perhaps they should
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                        • #13
                          Uuuhh, no.
                          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                          • #14
                            Damn you, Sloww. Now I'm going to have to requisition a new set of eyeballs. The ones I have are ruined forever!

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                              My eyes are burning
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