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  • The Big Bang time paradox

    It is postulated that time did not exist before the big bang.

    The problem arises - if time did not exist, neither did change. If change did not exist, then the Bid Bang should never have happened at all - everything should have stayed static. Why didn't that happen? Or is our premise itself wrong - time did, in fact, exist before the Big Bang, therefore making the initial state something of a transient one?

    Any answer?

  • #2
    I'm not a big proponent of the nothing happened before the big bang.

    I've heard theories that the universe collapses upon itself and then another big bang occurs in a repeating cycle.

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    • #3
      Dis: Sure, and then it's turtles all the way down.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
        Dis: Sure, and then it's turtles all the way down.
        How do you address the paradox, then?

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        • #5
          My understanding is that Time and Space are properties of the Universe and have meaning only within it. "Before" the Big Bang is as meaningless as "Outside the Universe" (in a spatial sense). When you ask "why dosn't it just stay the same" Your giving the "Nothing" a reality it dose not have, it is pure unadulteraded non-existence devoid of all concivable properties and atributes. Only something which exists can be said to be static OR changing, for example a non existent dog is neither on fire nor is it not on fire. Thus the absense of time dose not imply a kind of never-ending stasis which the Universe "breaks" at the Big-Bang. Dose this help?
          Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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          • #6
            Time is a name given to a concept that exists within the Universe. Speaking about time (and all things that go with it such as change) outside of the Universe is a pointless exercise.

            No paradox.
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            • #7
              "Time is an abstract concept invented by organic beings to measure their own decay!"

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              • #8
                Re: The Big Bang time paradox

                Originally posted by aneeshm
                It is postulated that time did not exist before the big bang.
                Do you have any links to this postulate ?
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                • #9
                  The opening post (along with many of the following posts) demonstrates fundamental ignorance of contemporary cosmological models.
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                  • #10
                    I love watching people who either lack the motivation or the intellect to actually learn physics try to poke holes in theories created by their betters.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                      The opening post (along with many of the following posts) demonstrates fundamental ignorance of contemporary cosmological models.
                      Impaler got it basically correct though didn't he? I'm not aware of any way our current understanding of physics would contradict him and I'd be genuinely interested in learning how it does if that is the case.

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                      • #12
                        Nah, what is funny is that aneeshm thinks that he has found a problem that those behind the "big bang" theory hasn't considered, or for that matter, that he belives in what someone who has misinterpreted the theory says
                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                        • #13
                          Time only exists to stop everything happening at once.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Geronimo


                            Impaler got it basically correct though didn't he?
                            Not particularly...
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
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                            • #15
                              Do tell us, oh mighty one... gifted with the ability to stay awake in class!

                              What is the right answer?

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